NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Tsi » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:28 pm

Everton signing Schneiderlin should see Cleverley or McCarthy going out on loan/sold.
Don't know if I'd take them on a permanent deal but both would do a job in the Championship.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Bodacious Benny » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:58 pm

Tsi wrote:Everton signing Schneiderlin should see Cleverley or McCarthy going out on loan/sold.
Don't know if I'd take them on a permanent deal but both would do a job in the Championship.


Cleverley couldn't get a game before they signed Schneiderlin so he'll probably go. I'd definitely take him on loan.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Aldridge Prior » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:00 pm

I'd rather have McCarthy, good player.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Footyfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:22 pm

I can't believe people are wanting Cleverly in , he only played at Man Utd because he had good players around him , they made him look decent, but he can't get a game at Everton , so what does that tell you ! It just shows me how bad our midfield is , i.e. Colback , if they think Cleverly is good !

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Colback's Orange Tufts » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:42 pm

Footyfan wrote:I can't believe people are wanting Cleverly in , he only played at Man Utd because he had good players around him , they made him look decent, but he can't get a game at Everton , so what does that tell you ! It just shows me how bad our midfield is , i.e. Colback , if they think Cleverly is good !


It tells you that we, Championship side now, at less good than a top half Premier League team. If we get promoted, we'll be a bottom of the table side in the first year. So Everton's rejects could of course improve us
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby ALF » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:57 pm

Cleverley is average, but he's experienced and a Premier League winner. Serious upgrade on Colback and more proven in the PL than Shelvey.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby CIH » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:13 pm

Cleverly on loan, McCarthy brought in on a permanent would be nice. Try see if we can trick someone take Colback off us too. Might have to wait until Pardew is back in a job, though.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby TBC » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:38 pm

CIH wrote:Cleverly on loan, McCarthy brought in on a permanent would be nice. Try see if we can trick someone take Colback off us too.


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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Duke » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:41 pm

ALF wrote:Cleverley is average, but he's experienced and a Premier League winner. Serious upgrade on Colback and more proven in the PL than Shelvey.


Forgot how much you hated Shelvey
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Footyfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:46 pm

I'm 54 and I could still do a better job than Colback ! But seriously, Cleverly? I agree Colback has to go , but who will take him and pay him what he gets here , nobody ! So he will just see his contract out like he did when he came here from Sunderland , like somebody said Pardew might be in a job by then , as he's the p... who brought him in , along with that idiot Carr of course !

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Bodacious Benny » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:47 pm

Duke wrote:
ALF wrote:Cleverley is average, but he's experienced and a Premier League winner. Serious upgrade on Colback and more proven in the PL than Shelvey.


Forgot how much you hated Shelvey


Shelvey and Cleverley are very similar:

Shelvey = 141 PL games, 12 goals, 7 assists
Cleverley = 143 PL games, 11 goals, 9 assists

https://www.premierleague.com/players/4 ... lvey/stats

https://www.premierleague.com/players/3 ... rley/stats
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Duke » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:51 pm

Yes in goals and assists but there's much more to it than that. Shelvey's the better player by a mile.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Bodacious Benny » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:54 pm

Duke wrote:Yes in goals and assists but there's much more to it than that. Shelvey's the better player by a mile.


I'd rate them as very similar in ability overall personally, even when looking beyond goals and assists.

Cleverley actually had a decent run in the Man U team before he moved to Everton, which for one reason or another just hasn't worked out for him. A Cleverley + Shelvey CM pairing in the Championship would be more than good.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Duke » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:00 pm

I'd far rather have a defensive midfielder beside Shelvey to let him pull the strings in midfield and run the show. Cleverly doesn't offer much at all really. Tries to be a jack of all trades but is a bit s*** at everything. Nowhere near Shelvey ability wise IMO.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby CIH » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:29 pm

Shelvey McCarthy Cleverly Hayden as the four midfield options rotating would be pretty solid imo.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby TBC » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:39 pm

I think it would be one or the other. They're both better than Colback so either way we're improving the team.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby I'm over Colo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:50 pm

I think there's a debate to be had about whether we'd want Cleverly next year if in the PL, but I think he's better than all of our CMs besides Shelvey, and on loan he'd be very helpful for the rest of this season.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Don Sholeone » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:55 pm

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2017)

Postby Aldridge Prior » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:56 pm

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Juliet Papa Golf wrote:
Yeah it's that Thomas Clements fella. It's obviously all a wind-up but some of the stuff he puts out there is hilarious.


I muted all that pricks tweets, I wouldn't mind if they were humourous but it just comes across as attention seeking just like that cwarr or whatever he was called.


I know who he is and he's nothing like Cwarr, he just does it for his own amusement and loads of idiots fall for it.


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