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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by Remember Colo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

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Social media links with Sturaro from Juventus. As Merino will probably be on his way out we'll presumably be in the market for another midfielder.

I'd still like to keep Merino, think he's got the attributes to become a very good player.
I can only assume that Rafa makes his mind up on players predominantly through what they do in training. As I can't see any reason why he's so keen to shift on Merino, Mitro, Mbemba etc., based on what they do on the pitch, yet gives chances to the likes of Joselu and Gayle despite them not being anywhere near good enough at this level.

Or maybe he just hates the letter M.
I think that's a totally reasonable assumption, but the best training performance in the world doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't result in on-field performance, and Gayle and Joselu had so many opportunities to prove themselves last year, and consistently failed to flatter. Mbemba I'm less surprised by though because the players in front of him actually did do well last season, and it makes sense that he would want to go somewhere to be first choice. But we're so thin at midfield and forward, it's harder to justify why the others didn't get more chances to take the position from players who continued to lay eggs on matchday.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:10 am

"Newcastle United have been told by Feyenoord they will have to pay more than £20m to sign their 27-year-old Denmark striker Nicolai Jorgensen."

No thanks.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by overseasTOON » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:44 am

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Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:10 am
"Newcastle United have been told by Feyenoord they will have to pay more than £20m to sign their 27-year-old Denmark striker Nicolai Jorgensen."

No thanks.
The only reason I'd want us to sign Nicolai Jorgensen for is his wife.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by lassassinblanc » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

Offered Sturridge for 15m.

IF and that's a big IF he stays fit he'd be a steal at that price
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Post by Colly » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

Eu estou Colo wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm
Edison Heisen wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 am


I can only assume that Rafa makes his mind up on players predominantly through what they do in training. As I can't see any reason why he's so keen to shift on Merino, Mitro, Mbemba etc., based on what they do on the pitch, yet gives chances to the likes of Joselu and Gayle despite them not being anywhere near good enough at this level.

Or maybe he just hates the letter M.
I think that's a totally reasonable assumption, but the best training performance in the world doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't result in on-field performance, and Gayle and Joselu had so many opportunities to prove themselves last year, and consistently failed to flatter. Mbemba I'm less surprised by though because the players in front of him actually did do well last season, and it makes sense that he would want to go somewhere to be first choice. But we're so thin at midfield and forward, it's harder to justify why the others didn't get more chances to take the position from players who continued to lay eggs on matchday.
Merino never getting a chance at number 10 baffles me. I rate Perez more than most but he's the only player in the squad who literally had zero competition for a place last season.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:25 pm

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Offered Sturridge for 15m.

IF and that's a big IF he stays fit he'd be a steal at that price
No thanks, £100k+ per week for someone who might play 20 games a season.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by Remember Colo » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:00 pm

Colly wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

I think that's a totally reasonable assumption, but the best training performance in the world doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't result in on-field performance, and Gayle and Joselu had so many opportunities to prove themselves last year, and consistently failed to flatter. Mbemba I'm less surprised by though because the players in front of him actually did do well last season, and it makes sense that he would want to go somewhere to be first choice. But we're so thin at midfield and forward, it's harder to justify why the others didn't get more chances to take the position from players who continued to lay eggs on matchday.
Merino never getting a chance at number 10 baffles me. I rate Perez more than most but he's the only player in the squad who literally had zero competition for a place last season.
Exactly. Perez came on well at the end of the season, but he was given months (arguably years considering how mediocre he's been for a while now), while other players were hardly given a sniff with substitute appearances.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by overseasTOON » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:12 pm

lblancsson wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Offered Sturridge for 15m.

IF and that's a big IF he stays fit he'd be a steal at that price
Given his injury record, I reckon the £15 million is still too much to risk.

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:49 pm

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lblancsson wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Offered Sturridge for 15m.

IF and that's a big IF he stays fit he'd be a steal at that price
Given his injury record, I reckon the £15 million is still too much to risk.
Given his injury record, I'd argue he'd be a risk even without a transfer fee. Yeah when fit and firing, he was immense. But that was one season, years ago.
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Post by Hjl » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:29 pm

Yea, even go free he still draws a massive wage. He'd end up being an even less cost effective Owen.

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:48 pm

£18.7m in wages alone if we got him on a 'free', and that's before bonuses etc. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

(Assuming we kept paying him £120k a week).

The bloke has made a career out of one good season where he was helped massively by Suarez occupying defenders.
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Post by Deleted User » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:48 pm

So I came second in a works FIFA tournament today and got a tour of at James park as a prize.

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Post by overseasTOON » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:51 pm

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So I came second in a works FIFA tournament today and got a tour of at James park as a prize.
It's like a new signing!

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:56 pm

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So I came second in a works FIFA tournament today and got a tour of at James park as a prize.
Stick to the "I won a stadium tour" thread <fist>

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by ColbacksFlamingBarnet » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:51 pm

Eu estou Colo wrote:
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Exactly. Perez came on well at the end of the season, but he was given months (arguably years considering how mediocre he's been for a while now), while other players were hardly given a sniff with substitute appearances.
Perez is a weird one. He's bland the whole season, scores some bangers towards the end and guarantees he won;t get sold. Rinse and repeat. I too would like Merino to stay, future spanish national team player if he gets the game time.

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:06 pm

For the final few months of last season Perez was consistently good for a fair period of time, probably as consistent as I can ever remember him being in his time here. Hopefully it's a sign that he'll contribute more regularly. I'm happy to keep hold of him, and have been a critic of his in the past.
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Post by Remember Colo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:36 pm

Blještav Benny wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:06 pm
For the final few months of last season Perez was consistently good for a fair period of time, probably as consistent as I can ever remember him being in his time here. Hopefully it's a sign that he'll contribute more regularly. I'm happy to keep hold of him, and have been a critic of his in the past.
Oh, and I totally agree he should be kept, especially if he's sorted things out with Rafa's coaching. My point just was that it's tough to explain why a player like Merino wasn't getting at least a chance to play in the 10 role when for so long Perez hadn't been producing. But credit to Perez for playing well at the end of the year when it was needed.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2018)

Post by Bodacious Benny » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:35 pm

Eu estou Colo wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:36 pm
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:06 pm
For the final few months of last season Perez was consistently good for a fair period of time, probably as consistent as I can ever remember him being in his time here. Hopefully it's a sign that he'll contribute more regularly. I'm happy to keep hold of him, and have been a critic of his in the past.
Oh, and I totally agree he should be kept, especially if he's sorted things out with Rafa's coaching. My point just was that it's tough to explain why a player like Merino wasn't getting at least a chance to play in the 10 role when for so long Perez hadn't been producing. But credit to Perez for playing well at the end of the year when it was needed.
What's Merino's preferred position? CM or number 10? Either way I'm surprised we didn't see a bit more of him from Dec onwards. Diame only really came good from Jan from memory.
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Post by Colly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:26 pm

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Post by Chappy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:32 pm

lblancsson wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Offered Sturridge for 15m.

IF and that's a big IF he stays fit he'd be a steal at that price
But you know he wouldn't. He'd be an awful signing.
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