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Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by overseasTOON » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:49 pm

TBC wrote:
Bodacious Benny wrote:I still think him and Lascelles are fine as a CB partnership for the rest of the season at least and Clark has generally done okay in my book, scoring a couple of goals too. He's certainly better than Lejeune from what I've seen. Defense isn't really our problem, it's the other end of the pitch.
But let’s not be too quick to rule out another new signing
I've been impressed with him in his first season with us. He's played sporadically in differing combinations of pairings but hasn't looked too bad.

His career history to date has been mainly in slower paced league's so he just needs to adapt.

Time will tell but he's been OK.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Remember Colo » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:43 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:I still think him and Lascelles are fine as a CB partnership for the rest of the season at least and Clark has generally done okay in my book, scoring a couple of goals too. He's certainly better than Lejeune from what I've seen. Defense isn't really our problem, it's the other end of the pitch.
Oh I didn't mean to imply another CB is a January priority - we definitely have bigger positions of need. I just think Clark has been a big letdown this season (regarding his defending), and Lascelles has been a mile better than everyone else.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by bodacious benny » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:13 pm

TBC wrote:
Bodacious Benny wrote:I still think him and Lascelles are fine as a CB partnership for the rest of the season at least and Clark has generally done okay in my book, scoring a couple of goals too. He's certainly better than Lejeune from what I've seen. Defense isn't really our problem, it's the other end of the pitch.
But let’s not be too quick to rule out another new signing
I'm not ruling him out, and perhaps he'd look better with Lascelles alongside him.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by TBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:06 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:I still think him and Lascelles are fine as a CB partnership for the rest of the season at least and Clark has generally done okay in my book, scoring a couple of goals too. He's certainly better than Lejeune from what I've seen. Defense isn't really our problem, it's the other end of the pitch.
But let’s not be too quick to rule out another new signing

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by bodacious benny » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 pm

I still think him and Lascelles are fine as a CB partnership for the rest of the season at least and Clark has generally done okay in my book, scoring a couple of goals too. He's certainly better than Lejeune from what I've seen. Defense isn't really our problem, it's the other end of the pitch.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Remember Colo » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:05 pm

Ramone wrote:
I'm over Colo wrote: Couple days late to this thread, but I agree with this summary most. Though I've been really disappointed by Clark this season. Way too many goals scored like the first in which he's completely unaware of, or passive towards the player he should be marking in the box. Aguero is worldclass, but you can't be leaving him unmarked to score a header from a simple (albeit great) cross into the box.
He also completely lost Sterling for their disallowed goal <erk>
Sadly it seems the Villa evidence might be right, and he's the kind of player that can be great in the Championship but maybe not cut out to be a starting defender in the PL. He may or may not be better than our other options, but I've lost the trust I'd built up in him last season.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Ramone » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:54 pm

I'm over Colo wrote:
ALF wrote:I know we've lost but this isn't a bad performance.

Darlow has done well, Lascelles and Clark have been decent, Dummett has been absolutely brilliant, Murphy got his goal and generally looked bright, Diame has put in another decent performance.

Only massive issues are Right Back and Striker. Both Yedlin and Manquillo have been dreadful and Benitez really needs to play Mitrovic. It's costing us points now. Joselu showed again he shouldn't be anything more than a substitute.
Couple days late to this thread, but I agree with this summary most. Though I've been really disappointed by Clark this season. Way too many goals scored like the first in which he's completely unaware of, or passive towards the player he should be marking in the box. Aguero is worldclass, but you can't be leaving him unmarked to score a header from a simple (albeit great) cross into the box.
He also completely lost Sterling for their disallowed goal <erk>

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Remember Colo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:37 pm

ALF wrote:I know we've lost but this isn't a bad performance.

Darlow has done well, Lascelles and Clark have been decent, Dummett has been absolutely brilliant, Murphy got his goal and generally looked bright, Diame has put in another decent performance.

Only massive issues are Right Back and Striker. Both Yedlin and Manquillo have been dreadful and Benitez really needs to play Mitrovic. It's costing us points now. Joselu showed again he shouldn't be anything more than a substitute.
Couple days late to this thread, but I agree with this summary most. Though I've been really disappointed by Clark this season. Way too many goals scored like the first in which he's completely unaware of, or passive towards the player he should be marking in the box. Aguero is worldclass, but you can't be leaving him unmarked to score a header from a simple (albeit great) cross into the box.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Albert's Chip Shop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:25 pm

I have a real downer on our home form.
Back in the day it used to be the other way around with our away form being the problem.
Some of our fan base are shocking the way they get on individual’s backs during the game which in the scheme of things I think doesn’t help.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by TBC » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:10 pm

Frustrating that our league form is tied with any potential takeover. The sooner we’re “safe” the better.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by UlversToon » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:04 pm

Don Sholeone wrote:I'm feeling pretty confident going into Burnley, they seem to be having a mini slump ATM think we can get back on track with 3 points.
Now where have I heard that before? <whistle>

Got a real chance in our next two games against Burnley & Crystal Palace and, hopefully, start to move away from the bottom 3 before the Manure game. Just hope we don't shoot ourselves in the foot again at SJP.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by bodacious benny » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:00 am

It's pretty clear that our attackers are generally s***, so I wonder if other teams look at that and commit more men forward than they would against other teams? Obviously Man C etc would come at us regardless, but I wonder if it's something that opposition managers would actually look at. Yeah they might get caught on the break but our chance conversion rate will be so bad they might think that it's an acceptable risk that could pay off.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by jpg » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:54 am

Considering we nearly always get humped by Man City, yesterday's result wasn't too bad. I think the performance displayed our strengths and weaknesses pretty well. If we had a half-decent number 10 and a better striker we might have got something from the game. So many times we broke on the counter but we just didn't have the quality to really stretch and punish them.

Swansea result was disappointing but I still feel we're on the right track.
Don Sholeone wrote:I'm feeling pretty confident going into Burnley, they seem to be having a mini slump ATM think we can get back on track with 3 points.
Oh, well now you've done it <fist>

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by bodacious benny » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:45 am

Don Sholeone wrote:I'm feeling pretty confident going into Burnley, they seem to be having a mini slump ATM think we can get back on track with 3 points.
True, but I'd lump Burnley at home in the same box as Swansea and Brighton at home in that we really should be getting 3 points. Hopefully this time we actually do.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Don Sholeone » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:30 am

I'm feeling pretty confident going into Burnley, they seem to be having a mini slump ATM think we can get back on track with 3 points.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Sir Bobby » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:32 pm

Colly wrote:On it's own that's an interesting statement, but it forgets a few things really.

1. I'd dread to see the difference in wage bill between then and now. Transfer fees aren't everything.
2. That's shortly before Ashley buys the club, a point at which we now know we were heading for financial disaster.
3. We've just been promoted, we haven't had over a decade in the Premiership plus a few Champions League seasons to build a squad. Hell, of the £60m that day over half of it is Shearer and Owen and they were signed half a decade apart.
4. We've frozen out our £15m striker, we couldn't afford to do that in 2005. We probably can't now really, but hey, in Rafa we trust...

It's an interesting factoid, but not much more than that other than what we already know, we're not the side we were in 2005/06. The interesting thing for me is how that 6-1 two seasons ago might have played out had our second goal not been shockingly ruled out. Mitro started that day so I reckon we'd have been well over £60m...
Agree roughly on points 2, 3 and 4 but I'm less sure on point 1. Our wages in 2008/09 were pretty much equal to our wages in 2015/16, and I imagine that our wages this season are a few million below 15/16 and that 05/06 were roughly the same amount below 2008/09. In the same way that we haven't had over a decade in the Premiership to build a squad, we haven't had over a decade to pay top wages.

It emphasises the fact that nowadays we scrimp and save but also the fact that back then we were overspending.

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Colly » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:22 pm

On it's own that's an interesting statement, but it forgets a few things really.

1. I'd dread to see the difference in wage bill between then and now. Transfer fees aren't everything.
2. That's shortly before Ashley buys the club, a point at which we now know we were heading for financial disaster.
3. We've just been promoted, we haven't had over a decade in the Premiership plus a few Champions League seasons to build a squad. Hell, of the £60m that day over half of it is Shearer and Owen and they were signed half a decade apart.
4. We've frozen out our £15m striker, we couldn't afford to do that in 2005. We probably can't now really, but hey, in Rafa we trust...

It's an interesting factoid, but not much more than that other than what we already know, we're not the side we were in 2005/06. The interesting thing for me is how that 6-1 two seasons ago might have played out had our second goal not been shockingly ruled out. Mitro started that day so I reckon we'd have been well over £60m...

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Graw » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:55 pm



f***ing sickening that

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by Chappy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:12 pm

I'd have ripped your hand off for 3-1 before kick off...

Re: Match thread - Man City v NUFC

by ColbacksFlamingBarnet » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:48 pm

A lot of positives to take from the game, and some negatives that we already knew about and are (hopefully) on the way to fixing.

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