Albert's Chip Shop wrote:Russians are above the law in every sense of the word.

Dorty wrote:

I'm over Colo wrote: I'm by no means a Russia defender, the very opposite actually. But I believe the theories that suggest the state is going to crack down on it for the World Cup, because as much as they love antagonizing the world, they also like pretending to be upstanding global citizens, and to go on with their secret hacking and everything else they need to place nice when the world is watching them.

Oh I do believe they will crack down on in it general. But I also think they will have a little something arranged for the England fans and the heirarchy could quite easily turn a blind eye to it. Putin, I suspect, would love that.

I'm over Colo wrote:

Dorty wrote:Well if the Russians are brazen enough to attack someone with a nerve agent, in public, in another country they will certainly think
nothing of giving England fans a good kicking in Russia this summer. And that order will come from the hierarchy himself, Putin. All part of his bullying and rubbing England's nose in it.

Do not be in any doubt, any England fan who goes to the Finals this summer will be at risk. Is it worth it, you may ask yourself?

I'm by no means a Russia defender, the very opposite actually. But I believe the theories that suggest the state is going to crack down on it for the World Cup, because as much as they love antagonizing the world, they also like pretending to be upstanding global citizens, and to go on with their secret hacking and everything else they need to place nice when the world is watching them.

Dorty wrote:Well if the Russians are brazen enough to attack someone with a nerve agent, in public, in another country they will certainly think
nothing of giving England fans a good kicking in Russia this summer. And that order will come from the hierarchy himself, Putin. All part of his bullying and rubbing England's nose in it.

Do not be in any doubt, any England fan who goes to the Finals this summer will be at risk. Is it worth it, you may ask yourself?

Scalabrine wrote:

daib0 wrote:from the BBC:

A police officer has died in Spain after violent clashes erupted between rival fans before Athletic Bilbao's home Europa League match against Spartak Moscow at San Mames. The officer from the Ertzaintza - the Basque Country's police force - suffered a heart attack.

More than 500 officers were deployed for the tie and reports say at least five arrests were made. Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has condemned Thursday's violence. The police officer, who was named locally as 51-year-old Inocencio Alonso Garcia, collapsed while intervening in street clashes involving Russian "ultras" from Spartak Moscow.

Footage of the clashes showed supporters aiming fireworks at each other on the streets.

More: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43164001

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Should clubs like Spartak receive European competition bans, like the English had to suffer in the 70/80s?

Do you fear for the world cup, with Russian fans who know every street of Moscow, and who can carry out guerilla-type tactics?

Seems that EUFA lack teeth totally ...

Thoughts?

It would be nice read something about "Herri Norte"... They started the clashes.

daib0 wrote:from the BBC:

A police officer has died in Spain after violent clashes erupted between rival fans before Athletic Bilbao's home Europa League match against Spartak Moscow at San Mames. The officer from the Ertzaintza - the Basque Country's police force - suffered a heart attack.

More than 500 officers were deployed for the tie and reports say at least five arrests were made. Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has condemned Thursday's violence. The police officer, who was named locally as 51-year-old Inocencio Alonso Garcia, collapsed while intervening in street clashes involving Russian "ultras" from Spartak Moscow.

Footage of the clashes showed supporters aiming fireworks at each other on the streets.

More: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43164001

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Should clubs like Spartak receive European competition bans, like the English had to suffer in the 70/80s?

Do you fear for the world cup, with Russian fans who know every street of Moscow, and who can carry out guerilla-type tactics?

Seems that EUFA lack teeth totally ...

Thoughts?

Don Sholeone wrote:Russia won't let it get out of hand on russian soil when all the worlds eyes are on them, they will crack down heavily on Russian hooligans this summer, the firm's will be too scared of the repercussions too I think.

Juliet Papa Golf wrote:Calling it right now - there’ll be next to no fan trouble at the World Cup.

The police will be all over it. In fact, I can see them causing those travelling more bother than opposing fans.

Juliet Papa Golf wrote:Calling it right now - there’ll be next to no fan trouble at the World Cup.

The police will be all over it. In fact, I can see them causing those travelling more bother than opposing fans.