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Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Remember Colo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:09 pm

gawalls wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:42 pm
 I think there's no way on earth he'll stay after his contact runs out if Ashley's still here and personally I think privately that will please Ashley.

Rafa doesn't fit the yes man category that every other manager Ashley has hired.
I won't disagree that he's previously hired "yes men", but it's not as if having someone pubicly complaining about him has actually forced Ashley to spend more money. Not really sure why he's ever really cared how much the managers play along with him, he's happy to do it his own (cheap) way regardless.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Colly » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:29 pm
TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:57 pm

I don’t believe this either, he’ll leave in the summer. Separate to you criticising most of, if not everything he does though.
Hardly criticising everything he does, just actually criticise things that deserve to be criticised unlike the fans we have who blindly worship him.

Spinning off that other thread, one of the things I like about this place is people understand that there's nuance between Rafa oot and Rafa is God. I hope this continues...

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by overseasTOON » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:27 pm

I paid good money for the boys I sent round.

If he walks, I want a refund.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Deleted User » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:42 pm

I think there's no way on earth he'll stay after his contact runs out if Ashley's still here and personally I think privately that will please Ashley.

Rafa doesn't fit the yes man category that every other manager Ashley has hired.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:29 pm

TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:57 pm
ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:51 pm


I don't think we'll replace him with better when he leaves in May. But just because we're not getting better it doesn't mean that I'm going to kid myself and pretend he's staying here out of loyalty and love for the fans.
I don’t believe this either, he’ll leave in the summer. Separate to you criticising most of, if not everything he does though.
Hardly criticising everything he does, just actually criticise things that deserve to be criticised unlike the fans we have who blindly worship him.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Valentino's fast feet » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:07 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:24 pm
CIH wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:21 pm

I think his point was a club like Everton or West Ham would pay those kind of wages, rather than they'd specifically want Rafa. And West Ham clearly did want him, at least twice. The fact that in that link Koeman at Everton earns more than Benitez at the time illustrates that they'd be willing to up his salary. Weren't they willing to pay something like 10m just to break Silva's contract at Watford?
I don't disagree there. But the clubs that will match his big wages wouldn't want him. If he walked away the day after the window shut then he wouldn't walk into another job and get paid what he's on now for a long time.
I don't think anyone seriously expects him to walk after the window shuts. He'll see out his contract, and he will be on a few shortlists come next summer.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by TBC » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:57 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:51 pm
TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:25 pm
 Exactly. I just hope when Rafa does walk next summer and we end up with Malky Mackay that Alf never moans once, as this is as good as it gets.

I don't think we'll replace him with better when he leaves in May. But just because we're not getting better it doesn't mean that I'm going to kid myself and pretend he's staying here out of loyalty and love for the fans.
I don’t believe this either, he’ll leave in the summer. Separate to you criticising most of, if not everything he does though.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by bodacious benny » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:54 pm

Of course he'd never have come here (or stayed) without a hefty contract, but there is a genuine affinity with the fans and the area that is real. If he was only in it for the money I doubt he'd do all the extra things that he gets involved in.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:51 pm

TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:25 pm
 Exactly. I just hope when Rafa does walk next summer and we end up with Malky Mackay that Alf never moans once, as this is as good as it gets.

I don't think we'll replace him with better when he leaves in May. But just because we're not getting better it doesn't mean that I'm going to kid myself and pretend he's staying here out of loyalty and love for the fans.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by TBC » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:25 pm

Exactly. I just hope when Rafa does walk next summer and we end up with Malky Mackay that Alf never moans once, as this is as good as it gets.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:24 pm

CIH wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:21 pm
ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:51 pm

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... t-11693263

I realise that's a couple of years old but I highly doubt half of Europe has upped their manager wage that much. Everton didn't want him and West Ham got PL winner Pellegrini. Which of those jobs could he walk into?
I think his point was a club like Everton or West Ham would pay those kind of wages, rather than they'd specifically want Rafa. And West Ham clearly did want him, at least twice. The fact that in that link Koeman at Everton earns more than Benitez at the time illustrates that they'd be willing to up his salary. Weren't they willing to pay something like 10m just to break Silva's contract at Watford?
I don't disagree there. But the clubs that will match his big wages wouldn't want him. If he walked away the day after the window shut then he wouldn't walk into another job and get paid what he's on now for a long time.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Valentino's fast feet » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:21 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:51 pm
TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:39 pm

No he’s not <laugh> he could have got more at West Ham and Everton for a start.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... t-11693263

I realise that's a couple of years old but I highly doubt half of Europe has upped their manager wage that much. Everton didn't want him and West Ham got PL winner Pellegrini. Which of those jobs could he walk into?
I think his point was a club like Everton or West Ham would pay those kind of wages, rather than they'd specifically want Rafa. And West Ham clearly did want him, at least twice. The fact that in that link Koeman at Everton earns more than Benitez at the time illustrates that they'd be willing to up his salary. Weren't they willing to pay something like 10m just to break Silva's contract at Watford?

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:51 pm

TBC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:39 pm
ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:37 pm

I don't think he could. He's one of the highest paid managers around.
No he’s not <laugh> he could have got more at West Ham and Everton for a start.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... t-11693263

I realise that's a couple of years old but I highly doubt half of Europe has upped their manager wage that much. Everton didn't want him and West Ham got PL winner Pellegrini. Which of those jobs could he walk into?

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by Kenny19644 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:42 pm

He's going without a doubt and who would blame him. We all know how lucky we are to have him but those who run our club are clueless. When he goes we'll be in real trouble.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by TBC » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:39 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:37 pm
Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:24 am

He could easily get similar money elsewhere if that's what mattered.
I don't think he could. He's one of the highest paid managers around.
No he’s not <laugh> he could have got more at West Ham and Everton for a start.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:37 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:24 am
ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:10 am
 Rafa is an honourable man getting paid an absolute fortune. No chance he walks.
He could easily get similar money elsewhere if that's what mattered.
I don't think he could. He's one of the highest paid managers around.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ExiledMag » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:22 pm

Suppose he wasn't moaning when he was spending Premier league budgets in the championship. He'll go at end of season and in a way it'll end all this draining talk of his future every other day.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by bodacious benny » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:24 am

ALF wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:10 am
 Rafa is an honourable man getting paid an absolute fortune. No chance he walks.
He could easily get similar money elsewhere if that's what mattered.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by ALF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:10 am

Rafa is an honourable man getting paid an absolute fortune. No chance he walks.

Re: Do you think Rafa will walk

by bodacious benny » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:05 am

Rafa is an honorable man and will see out his contract, no way will he sign a new one after continued lack of investment.

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