by Donkey Toon » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:20 pm
Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:09 am
Colly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:29 am
I think exceptionally might be pushing it. You could maybe say we were unlucky in the Chelsea one (late winner, but we certainly didn't deserve that late equaliser just before, it was a pathetic performance defending a 1-0 loss), and Man Utd was half good before an utter capitulation, but we set up to get nothing and managed it every time bar that first half at Old Trafford. Hell, Spurs was the first game of the season when half their team had just got back from the World Cup, perfect time to play them, and we still didn't go for it.
This is by the by though, that was a comment on a statistical anomaly, the home losses to Leicester and Brighton are the ones to really look at.
Fair, we were s*** v Leicester. But against Brighton we were very unlucky (27 shots and no goals?!). Against Cardiff we should have won and would have if Kenedy had scored the pen. Man Utd we lost because they were ludicrously attacking the second half, most of our frontline was injured (Rondon was out, Muto and Kenedy went off with injuries), and we didn't get a stonewall penalty. Chelsea, Yedlin scored a fluke OG and we had key players injured in Lascelles and Shelvey.
Of course we have not done well at all at the start of the season, we have looked quite toothless at times. But we deserve more than we've got, no question about that. We are not a brilliant team by any stretch but there are teams just as s*** or more s*** than we are in this league, no question. We absolutely need to our luck to change, but it's not as bad as people are making out.
Two wins - whether flukey or totally deserved - and everyone will be totally pro-Rafa again, I guarantee. Hopefully that'll begin tomorrow.
And I can guarantee that that is not going to be true.
Also claims to being where we are due to luck is a one-sided argument. Maybe Fulham, Huddersfield and Cardiff should all have a couple more wins under their belts but for luck. You think bad luck only happens to us?
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[quote=Colly post_id=849901 time=1541150951 user_id=125]
I think exceptionally might be pushing it. You could maybe say we were unlucky in the Chelsea one (late winner, but we certainly didn't deserve that late equaliser just before, it was a pathetic performance defending a 1-0 loss), and Man Utd was half good before an utter capitulation, but we set up to get nothing and managed it every time bar that first half at Old Trafford. Hell, Spurs was the first game of the season when half their team had just got back from the World Cup, perfect time to play them, and we still didn't go for it.
This is by the by though, that was a comment on a statistical anomaly, the home losses to Leicester and Brighton are the ones to really look at.
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Fair, we were s*** v Leicester. But against Brighton we were very unlucky (27 shots and no goals?!). Against Cardiff we should have won and would have if Kenedy had scored the pen. Man Utd we lost because they were ludicrously attacking the second half, most of our frontline was injured (Rondon was out, Muto and Kenedy went off with injuries), and we didn't get a stonewall penalty. Chelsea, Yedlin scored a fluke OG and we had key players injured in Lascelles and Shelvey.
Of course we have not done well at all at the start of the season, we have looked quite toothless at times. But we deserve more than we've got, no question about that. We are not a brilliant team by any stretch but there are teams just as s*** or more s*** than we are in this league, no question. We absolutely need to our luck to change, but it's not as bad as people are making out.
[b]Two wins - whether flukey or totally deserved - and everyone will be totally pro-Rafa again, I guarantee[/b]. Hopefully that'll begin tomorrow.[/quote]
And I can guarantee that that is not going to be true.
Also claims to being where we are due to luck is a one-sided argument. Maybe Fulham, Huddersfield and Cardiff should all have a couple more wins under their belts but for luck. You think bad luck only happens to us?
