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Re: Lovely article on Perez

by beatski » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:42 pm

Colly wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:29 pm
That's me, but I think half the ground sit in front of two guys who grief Perez. Ground full of fuckwits.

<laugh> good point

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Colly » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:29 pm

That's me, but I think half the ground sit in front of two guys who grief Perez. Ground full of fuckwits.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by beatski » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:29 pm

Asprillasfurcoat wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:30 am
Saw on Twitter Saturday afternoon that someone put up a photo of two miserable looking gits standing arms folded after goal 3 .. it was a show and shame on social media for these two fellas who've sat in front of him all season and apparently have given Perez not stop abuse,
Doesnt he post on here? I remember seeing posts about sitting in front of two guys who just constantly grief Perez

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Asprillasfurcoat » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:30 am

Saw on Twitter Saturday afternoon that someone put up a photo of two miserable looking gits standing arms folded after goal 3 .. it was a show and shame on social media for these two fellas who've sat in front of him all season and apparently have given Perez not stop abuse, to the point where they refused to celebrate his hatrick !!! I cannot fathom how someone who calls themselves a supporter could not celebrate a player of their team scoring a hatrick at home, never mind one that secures Premier League the following season .. why would you spend good money on a season ticket to turn up each week with an attitude like that ? I know some people don't rate him, but refusing to acknowledge a hatrick ? C'mon ... These wren't kids either. Proper muppets.

We've had our fair share of donkeys that've made peoples hearts sink when they're announced on the team sheet, but has anyone reallyever hated a NUFC player so much they refused to celebrate when they scored ? Just seems bizzare !

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by ALF » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:05 am

He's more suited to playing wide in a Benitez team than as a CAM that isn't a CAM. Realistically our 4-2-3-1 formation that we played previously had 2 DM's and a CM in it.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by beatski » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:45 am

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by beatski » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:44 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:31 am
Beatski wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:58 am
I see Perez has said he's open to a move, wonder how the opinions of fans who constantly slate him will change after this? probably say he's ungrateful and complain about his lack of loyalty
Surely fans who continually slate him wouldn’t be that botherered.
You'd think that, but there's always the shitbags who want things both ways

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by bodacious benny » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:31 am

Beatski wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:58 am
I see Perez has said he's open to a move, wonder how the opinions of fans who constantly slate him will change after this? probably say he's ungrateful and complain about his lack of loyalty
Surely fans who continually slate him wouldn’t be that botherered.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by beatski » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:58 am

I see Perez has said he's open to a move, wonder how the opinions of fans who constantly slate him will change after this? probably say he's ungrateful and complain about his lack of loyalty

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by bodacious benny » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:04 pm

Remember Colo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:51 pm
Speedo wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 am


Everybody should read this article. I have had mixed feelings on Pérez, he’s persuaded me recently, and this article quantifies why. Yes he has some limitations, but he’s so critical to how we play - in terms of chances created and tracking back. Any limitations he has - and he does have them - are more a reflection of where we are as a club vs. of him. Along with Dubravka, Rondon, Ritchie, Schär/Lejeune and now Almiron, he is utterly critical to what we do and how we play.
This probably reflects my feelings best too. I've never, ever questioned his effort, I've often just thought he wasn't best suited for the role he was in, or more specifically, the squad has needed a CAM that would influence play and his teammates more that he's suited to. It wasn't his fault the side has had that void for most of his time with us - and I think Almiron's impact on attacking play and his teammates' performance has demonstrated that.
Yep, that sums it up nicely.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Remember Colo » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:51 pm

Speedo wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 am
Beatski wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:31 pm


Half arsed
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -w28gq336q
Everybody should read this article. I have had mixed feelings on Pérez, he’s persuaded me recently, and this article quantifies why. Yes he has some limitations, but he’s so critical to how we play - in terms of chances created and tracking back. Any limitations he has - and he does have them - are more a reflection of where we are as a club vs. of him. Along with Dubravka, Rondon, Ritchie, Schär/Lejeune and now Almiron, he is utterly critical to what we do and how we play.
This probably reflects my feelings best too. I've never, ever questioned his effort, I've often just thought he wasn't best suited for the role he was in, or more specifically, the squad has needed a CAM that would influence play and his teammates more that he's suited to. It wasn't his fault the side has had that void for most of his time with us - and I think Almiron's impact on attacking play and his teammates' performance has demonstrated that.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Colly » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:31 pm

Get out.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Toondes » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:54 pm

Shola was s****.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Crouching Shola Hidden Talent » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:57 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:47 am
Colly wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:55 am


All of this, and also where is Shola punditing?!?

<love>
Turns up on Sky for our games occasionally.
Also appears on the BBC Football Daily Podcast from time to time. I make it my mission to get as much Shola in my life as possible.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Chappy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:03 am

Beatski wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:31 pm
More than goals and assists If you weren’t surprised by Pérez’s creative ability this season did you know he’s one of the best defensive forwards in the Premier League?

As the graphic above shows the 25-year-old has recovered possession more often than any forward this season and is also best for interceptions too. Indeed he was top for interceptions last season (24) and the sixth-best forward for recoveries (132) but it is interesting that, as with his chances created tally, he has already made more interceptions this season than he did last.

Still not impressed? OK well, as the graphic below shows, Pérez has made the most tackles of any forward this season and is fourth-best for winning the ball back high up the pitch.
Half arsed
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -w28gq336q
<applause> <applause> <applause>

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by bodacious benny » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:47 am

Colly wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:55 am
Crouching Shola Hidden Talent wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:35 pm
The response to him reminds me a lot of the way fans used to react to Shola (who as you may know I have a lot of love for), in so much that he polarises opinion, a point already evidenced in the opening few comments on here.

I do get the comparisons to a point - he gets picked week in and week out for a reason, which I assume is to do with what is seen on the training ground, despite him having limitations in most areas of his game. And then he gets battered for not being amazing all of the time. But I'm reluctant to criticise him (always, because he's also not exempt) for that as he seems to put in the effort and give it his best.

He can only work with what he has (and I'm sure he knows the flaws in his game) but to go into work and get booed by fans who are supposed to be on his side purely because he makes mistakes seems harsh, therefore I do get the celebration.

I've never considered him lazy, just limited. Yet he does seem to step up on occasion and can make a difference, especially in what has been a very limited team during his time.

But he's no Shola. I f***ing love Shola. He's even better now he's a pundit and I get to see his beauty in glorious HD.
All of this, and also where is Shola punditing?!?

<love>
Turns up on Sky for our games occasionally.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Colly » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:55 am

Crouching Shola Hidden Talent wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:35 pm
The response to him reminds me a lot of the way fans used to react to Shola (who as you may know I have a lot of love for), in so much that he polarises opinion, a point already evidenced in the opening few comments on here.

I do get the comparisons to a point - he gets picked week in and week out for a reason, which I assume is to do with what is seen on the training ground, despite him having limitations in most areas of his game. And then he gets battered for not being amazing all of the time. But I'm reluctant to criticise him (always, because he's also not exempt) for that as he seems to put in the effort and give it his best.

He can only work with what he has (and I'm sure he knows the flaws in his game) but to go into work and get booed by fans who are supposed to be on his side purely because he makes mistakes seems harsh, therefore I do get the celebration.

I've never considered him lazy, just limited. Yet he does seem to step up on occasion and can make a difference, especially in what has been a very limited team during his time.

But he's no Shola. I f***ing love Shola. He's even better now he's a pundit and I get to see his beauty in glorious HD.
All of this, and also where is Shola punditing?!?

<love>

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Speedo » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 am

Beatski wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:31 pm
More than goals and assists If you weren’t surprised by Pérez’s creative ability this season did you know he’s one of the best defensive forwards in the Premier League?

As the graphic above shows the 25-year-old has recovered possession more often than any forward this season and is also best for interceptions too. Indeed he was top for interceptions last season (24) and the sixth-best forward for recoveries (132) but it is interesting that, as with his chances created tally, he has already made more interceptions this season than he did last.

Still not impressed? OK well, as the graphic below shows, Pérez has made the most tackles of any forward this season and is fourth-best for winning the ball back high up the pitch.
Half arsed
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -w28gq336q
Everybody should read this article. I have had mixed feelings on Pérez, he’s persuaded me recently, and this article quantifies why. Yes he has some limitations, but he’s so critical to how we play - in terms of chances created and tracking back. Any limitations he has - and he does have them - are more a reflection of where we are as a club vs. of him. Along with Dubravka, Rondon, Ritchie, Schär/Lejeune and now Almiron, he is utterly critical to what we do and how we play.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Crouching Shola Hidden Talent » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:35 pm

The response to him reminds me a lot of the way fans used to react to Shola (who as you may know I have a lot of love for), in so much that he polarises opinion, a point already evidenced in the opening few comments on here.

I do get the comparisons to a point - he gets picked week in and week out for a reason, which I assume is to do with what is seen on the training ground, despite him having limitations in most areas of his game. And then he gets battered for not being amazing all of the time. But I'm reluctant to criticise him (always, because he's also not exempt) for that as he seems to put in the effort and give it his best.

He can only work with what he has (and I'm sure he knows the flaws in his game) but to go into work and get booed by fans who are supposed to be on his side purely because he makes mistakes seems harsh, therefore I do get the celebration.

I've never considered him lazy, just limited. Yet he does seem to step up on occasion and can make a difference, especially in what has been a very limited team during his time.

But he's no Shola. I f***ing love Shola. He's even better now he's a pundit and I get to see his beauty in glorious HD.

Re: Lovely article on Perez

by Toondes » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:26 pm

Ive got to be honest , there’s stil games where I watch him and he frustrates the s*** out of me but having said that , he’s a very intelligent footballer and is hugely underrated . There always a player at a club who the fans don’t take too and it’s not just our club. He is starting to win people round but I think the thing that’s missing is consistency. I don’t mean he should be scoring or assisting every game but a lot of the time he is anonymous . He’s in a good form right now and fingers crossed he can keep it up.

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