Mate of mine has got tickets for Denmark v Belgium, should be decent.

overseasTOON wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:26 am

Euro 2024 they’ll probably just let every team qualify and then progress to the knockouts the way it’s going.

Somehow Scotland would still **** that up.

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:26 am

Euro 2024 they’ll probably just let every team qualify and then progress to the knockouts the way it’s going.

Somehow Scotland would still f*** that up.

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:26 am

Euro 2024 they’ll probably just let every team qualify and then progress to the knockouts the way it’s going.

..and invite Japan to make up the numbers as the South Americans do!

Euro 2024 they’ll probably just let every team qualify and then progress to the knockouts the way it’s going.

With the 4 best 3rd placed sides in the groups qualifying for the knockout stages chances are France, Germany and Portugal will all go through. Not quite the "group of death" it appears to be!

Toondes wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:08 pm

Group F looks fun

Winners of our group play the runners up of that one!

Group F looks fun

We're f***ed if we win our group, better draw if we finish second.

The draw in total

Group A: Italy, Switzerland, Turkey, Wales

Group B: Belgium, Russia, Denmark, Finland

Group C: Ukraine, Netherlands, Austria, Path A/D*

Group D: England, Croatia, Czech Republic, Path C (including Scotland)**

Group E: Spain, Poland, Sweden, Path B (including NI and ROI)***

Group F: Germany, France, Portugal, Path A/D*

*Iceland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Georgia, Belarus, North Macedonia or Kosovo

**Scotland, Israel, Norway, Serbia

***Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland

Without question, it has to be 16 or 32 teams. The 2026 World Cup is going up to 48 teams which is going to be equally s***. If you want to expand it go the whole hog and stick 64 in, at least then the bracket has a bit of shape.

Basically what I'm saying is that tournaments must always have the same number of teams as a 90s games console has bits.

UlversToon wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:56 pm

Never been a fan of the 24 team competition format with only 8 teams being eliminated after the group stages, it actually appears harder not to qualify for the knock-out stages than to reach them! (I hope that made sense! )

It's awful. Portugal won it 4 years ago by winning 1 game in 90 minutes(the semi final).

Never been a fan of the 24 team competition format with only 8 teams being eliminated after the group stages, it actually appears harder not to qualify for the knock-out stages than to reach them! (I hope that made sense! )

I know it's just the way things settled out, but those pools don't look particularly even. Though at least it might result in some fresh faces in Euro 2020.

Updated draw:-

A
Bulgaria v Hungary
Iceland v Romania

B
Bosnia-Herzegovina v Northern Ireland
Slovakia v Republic of Ireland

Possibility of Northern Ireland v Republic of Ireland for a place at Euro 2020

C
Norway v Serbia
Scotland v Israel

If Scotland qualify for the Euro 2020 finals, they will be in Group D with England.

D
Georgia v Belarus
North Macedonia v Kosovo.

Colly wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:37 am

UlversToon wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:22 am

C
Scotland v Bulgaria/Israel/Romania/Hungary

That doesn't feel very fair.

What's not fair, after all they've got 4 chances!

UlversToon wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:22 am

C
Scotland v Bulgaria/Israel/Romania/Hungary

That doesn't feel very fair.

Following Tuesday night's final set of group stage games, 20 of the 24 sides that will contest Euro 2020 next summer are now known as follows:

Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, England, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, Wales.

The remaining four places will be decided via play-offs involving no less than 16 countries. They consist of one-legged semi-finals on March 26th 2020 and one-legged finals on March 31st 2020.

The Finals draw takes place on November 30th, with the playoff pairings formally confirmed on Thursday, although some are known now:

A
Iceland v Hungary/Romania
Bulgaria/Israel v Israel/Hungary

B
Bosnia & Herzegovina v Northern Ireland
Slovakia v Republic of Ireland

C
Scotland v Bulgaria/Israel/Romania/Hungary
Norway v Serbia

D
Georgia v Belarus
North Macedonia v Kosovo

How do the play-offs work?

The draw for the play-offs will take place on Friday, 22 November with the 16 teams in the draw split into four paths - A, B, C and D.

Each path contains four teams, with their rankings determined by their performance in the Uefa Nations League.

Each path will be divided into two single-leg semi-finals. There the best-ranked team will host the worst-ranked team and the team ranked second will host the team ranked third. The winner of each semi-final will contest a final.

At the draw it will also be determined which semi-final winner plays the final at home. The winners of each of the four play-off finals will join the 20 teams who have qualified automatically.

I think Wilshere when he was fit and in form (obviously going back a few years) was head and shoulders above Winks.