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Re: The next manager?

by Remember Colo » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:53 pm

Clubs and the league make much bigger things than this go away, so I think this is a lot of smoke that'll come to nothing. Seems like a good way for Wednesday to earn extra faith from a fanbase that is already mad at Bruce.

Re: The next manager?

by Tsi » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:38 am

Newcastle United have been reported to the Premier League by Championship club Sheffield Wednesday over the appointment of the Owls’ former manager Steve Bruce.

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(Reuters) - Newcastle United have been reported to the Premier League by Championship club Sheffield Wednesday over the appointment of the Owls’ former manager Steve Bruce.
The much-travelled Bruce, 58, quit the Yorkshire club last Monday following talks with Newcastle, who named him as manager on Wednesday to replace the departed Rafa Benitez.
Second tier side Wednesday responded by saying they were disappointed to hear the news of Bruce’s appointment via a public statement and were taking legal advice.
The Yorkshire club issued a statement here on their website on Monday which said:
“Following Newcastle United’s announcement on 17 July 2019 of its appointment of former Sheffield Wednesday staff Steve Bruce, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence, the Club confirms that it has today reported Newcastle United’s conduct to the Premier League.
“As the Premier League will now initiate and carry out investigations into the Club’s allegations, the Club will not be commenting further on this matter whilst such investigations are ongoing.”
Ex-Sunderland and Aston Villa boss Bruce, who is a Newcastle fan and now in charge of his 10th club, having had two spells at Wigan Athletic, was the manager at Wednesday for 18 games after taking over on Feb. 1 following Jos Luhukay’s sacking.
The former Manchester United defender only suffered three defeats at Wednesday and steered them to a 12th place finish.
https://in.reuters.com/article/soccer-e ... 6?rpc=401&

If the report in the local Sheffield Paper is true i can't see them having a leg to stand on.

Local paper article
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Steve Bruce shook hands with Sheffield Wednesday chairman Dejphon Chansiri over his departure from the club to become manager of Premier League Newcastle United, The Sheffield Star have reported.

Despite growing reports linking him with Newcastle in the lead-up to his appointment, Wednesday themselves did not actually comment on the situation onto several hours after Bruce’s move to St James’ Park was confirmed, at which point the Owls released a statement revealing that they are taking advice over outstanding legal issues surrounding the 58-year-old’s departure.

As well as Bruce, assistant managers Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence have also made the move from Wednesday to Newcastle, and it is believed that a £2million compensation figure for the trio had been agreed and paid by the Magpies, leading Bruce to shake hands with Chansiri on his exit from the club, only for the Owls chairman to then return and demand a higher fee from the Premier League club.

Re: The next manager?

by Speedo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:31 am

Remember Colo wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:03 am
Despite my criticism of the hire and the process in hiring him, fans should support him and hope for the best, until he proves otherwise. I don't want him to do badly for the sake of being justified in being angry.
This. I haven’t decided if I’m boycotting yet (in London so it’s not an urgent decision; I’m not buying kit or Sports Direct stuff already), but if I am it’s not out of spite to Steve Bruce or because I want to see the team fail - quite the opposite. The problem is with the blokes in the directors’ box and them alone. Bruce is a symptom. Hopefully he can make the best of it.

Re: The next manager?

by Bodacious Benny » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:10 am

Remember Colo wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:03 am
Despite my criticism of the hire and the process in hiring him, fans should support him and hope for the best, until he proves otherwise. I don't want him to do badly for the sake of being justified in being angry.
Same.

Re: The next manager?

by Remember Colo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:03 am

Despite my criticism of the hire and the process in hiring him, fans should support him and hope for the best, until he proves otherwise. I don't want him to do badly for the sake of being justified in being angry.

Re: The next manager?

by Tsi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:14 pm

Yeah it makes sense now when Bruce said it'll all come out in the wash about his departure.

Re: The next manager?

by Blue & Maroon » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:05 pm

Tsi wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:45 pm
News coming out now that we paid 2m for the release of Bruce, Agnew and Clemence which was agreed with Sheff Wed only for their owner to get back in touch with us demanding a higher fee once they'd gone <laugh>
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Steve Bruce shook hands with Sheffield Wednesday chairman Dejphon Chansiri over his departure from the club to become manager of Premier League Newcastle United, The Sheffield Star have reported.

Despite growing reports linking him with Newcastle in the lead-up to his appointment, Wednesday themselves did not actually comment on the situation onto several hours after Bruce’s move to St James’ Park was confirmed, at which point the Owls released a statement revealing that they are taking advice over outstanding legal issues surrounding the 58-year-old’s departure.

As well as Bruce, assistant managers Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence have also made the move from Wednesday to Newcastle, and it is believed that a £2million compensation figure for the trio had been agreed and paid by the Magpies, leading Bruce to shake hands with Chansiri on his exit from the club, only for the Owls chairman to then return and demand a higher fee from the Premier League club.
Well that's fairly shithouse from Wednesday if it's true. Seems like they thought they could take advantage of Ashely's reputation, knowing everyone would believe them, to make a quick buck after the fact.

Re: The next manager?

by Tsi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:45 pm

News coming out now that we paid 2m for the release of Bruce, Agnew and Clemence which was agreed with Sheff Wed only for their owner to get back in touch with us demanding a higher fee once they'd gone <laugh>
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Steve Bruce shook hands with Sheffield Wednesday chairman Dejphon Chansiri over his departure from the club to become manager of Premier League Newcastle United, The Sheffield Star have reported.

Despite growing reports linking him with Newcastle in the lead-up to his appointment, Wednesday themselves did not actually comment on the situation onto several hours after Bruce’s move to St James’ Park was confirmed, at which point the Owls released a statement revealing that they are taking advice over outstanding legal issues surrounding the 58-year-old’s departure.

As well as Bruce, assistant managers Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence have also made the move from Wednesday to Newcastle, and it is believed that a £2million compensation figure for the trio had been agreed and paid by the Magpies, leading Bruce to shake hands with Chansiri on his exit from the club, only for the Owls chairman to then return and demand a higher fee from the Premier League club.

Re: The next manager?

by CIH » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:32 pm

Slim999 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:24 pm
Just trying to think a bit positively now.

Now that Bruce is here we should get behind him and the team- the latest signing is positive and we need a couple more.

Perhaps Bruce's recent contact with Arrons and Lazaar can work in our favour.

And unless I'm mistaken - the takeover is still on the cards ??

Think positively folks
I think the takeover is as good as dead. A three year deal for Bruce seems to signal Ashley expects to be here for a while. Everything else I agree with though. I think it's time to accept the s**** hand and go with it. Less uncertainty is helpful.

Re: The next manager?

by Slim999 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:24 pm

Just trying to think a bit positively now.

Now that Bruce is here we should get behind him and the team- the latest signing is positive and we need a couple more.

Perhaps Bruce's recent contact with Arrons and Lazaar can work in our favour.

And unless I'm mistaken - the takeover is still on the cards ??

Think positively folks

Re: The next manager?

by Caer Newydd » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:57 pm

overseasTOON wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:37 am
Steve Bruce stated he is not a puppet and has final say on transfers.

Which is what Mike told him to say <fist>
I'm sure this was playing away in the background when he said that:

Re: The next manager?

by Colly » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:02 pm

They've missed out the 't'. :(

Re: The next manager?

by jpg » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:52 pm

Starting to see now why Mike didn't buy into Rafa's "project" <erk>
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Re: The next manager?

by overseasTOON » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:37 am

Steve Bruce stated he is not a puppet and has final say on transfers.

Which is what Mike told him to say <fist>

Re: The next manager?

by Crouching Shola Hidden Talent » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:58 am

overseasTOON wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 am
TJR wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 am


I think we have around 35k available for season ticket holders. The remaining 17k are for general sale tickets, corporate tickets and away fans.

Of the 35k season ticket holders around 12k haven't renewed. So there'll be a lot more availability on general sale for games next season.
Great news for the scabs.

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I rarely get the chance to get to games anymore, having relocated and had kids (pesky little sods), so the main opportunity for me is to get to any away game in the North West. I have and always will support Newcastle, so if the opportunity arises next season to get to the odd game due to general sale, I have no shame in admitting I will be at my scabbiest and I will be there. Hate Ashley, hate the way the club has gone but I can't just chuck away what has been a very entertaining part of 30 years of my life.

We need a scab smilie <awe>

Re: The next manager?

by Colly » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:56 am

TJR wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 am
Colly wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:52 am
Ask a silly question, but I watched Steve Wraith's interview yesterday (the state of his shirt. Ridiculous human being) and he mentioned the people who'd gone online and seen there were about 12,000 unsold season tickets which he saw as good news for the boycott. Isn't that about the normal number of non season ticket holders? I thought we had around 30,000, which by the time you knock off corporates and away fans is about right?

Also we should probably rename this the General Misery thread.

I think we have around 35k available for season ticket holders. The remaining 17k are for general sale tickets, corporate tickets and away fans.

Of the 35k season ticket holders around 12k haven't renewed. So there'll be a lot more availability on general sale for games next season.
Got it, ta. It's going to be a funny looking ground this season if correct.

Re: The next manager?

by overseasTOON » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 am

TJR wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 am
Colly wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:52 am
Ask a silly question, but I watched Steve Wraith's interview yesterday (the state of his shirt. Ridiculous human being) and he mentioned the people who'd gone online and seen there were about 12,000 unsold season tickets which he saw as good news for the boycott. Isn't that about the normal number of non season ticket holders? I thought we had around 30,000, which by the time you knock off corporates and away fans is about right?

Also we should probably rename this the General Misery thread.

I think we have around 35k available for season ticket holders. The remaining 17k are for general sale tickets, corporate tickets and away fans.

Of the 35k season ticket holders around 12k haven't renewed. So there'll be a lot more availability on general sale for games next season.
Great news for the scabs.

<gent>

Re: The next manager?

by TJR » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 am

Colly wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:52 am
Ask a silly question, but I watched Steve Wraith's interview yesterday (the state of his shirt. Ridiculous human being) and he mentioned the people who'd gone online and seen there were about 12,000 unsold season tickets which he saw as good news for the boycott. Isn't that about the normal number of non season ticket holders? I thought we had around 30,000, which by the time you knock off corporates and away fans is about right?

Also we should probably rename this the General Misery thread.

I think we have around 35k available for season ticket holders. The remaining 17k are for general sale tickets, corporate tickets and away fans.

Of the 35k season ticket holders around 12k haven't renewed. So there'll be a lot more availability on general sale for games next season.

Re: The next manager?

by Colly » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:52 am

Ask a silly question, but I watched Steve Wraith's interview yesterday (the state of his shirt. Ridiculous human being) and he mentioned the people who'd gone online and seen there were about 12,000 unsold season tickets which he saw as good news for the boycott. Isn't that about the normal number of non season ticket holders? I thought we had around 30,000, which by the time you knock off corporates and away fans is about right?

Also we should probably rename this the General Misery thread.

Re: The next manager?

by Tsi » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:59 am

<laugh>

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