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Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Remember Colo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:21 am

I appreciate that positivity! And I'd add, we're still waiting for our best defender to return from injury.
I think the players will develop chemistry, and hope Bruce can continue learn how best to deploy them.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Slim999 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:55 pm

The second half of last season actually got me interested in footie again as we actually played some good stuff. A lot of it stemmed from the introduction of Almiron with his pace , passing and attacking intent. I don't think you can over estimate the impact somebody like that has on the rest of the team. He brought out the best in Perez and Rondon.
With the latter 2 now gone and Brucie here in place of Benitez I have been depressed and switched off from footie since August.
But something clicked today - and having these 2 Longstaff kids in the team is like a breath of fresh air.
If we can see Almiron get a goal his confidence may be boosted. There is a good player lurking in there I think.
I've been not blown away - but generally quite impressed at times with Max , Willelms and Joelinton ( although I have seen us much Apart from highlights).
Hopefully Carroll can stay fit and be a menace as a sub...
Our defence looked better today and I think Bruce should stick with a back 5 for now
Reasonably confident we can eke out enough points to keep us up .

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by bodacious benny » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:26 pm

Lower limb-fluid <laugh>

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by overseasTOON » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:59 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:26 pm
ALF wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:49 pm
 Yeah Ritchie is 100% left footed.
I’ve definitely seen him use his right, so not 100% left footed <roll>
I suppose in this day and age he's defined as non-binary in regards to preferred footedness, even lower limb-fluid so to say.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by bodacious benny » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:26 pm

ALF wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:49 pm
 Yeah Ritchie is 100% left footed.
I’ve definitely seen him use his right, so not 100% left footed <roll>

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by ALF » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:49 pm

Yeah Ritchie is 100% left footed.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by beatski » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:32 am

Colly wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:11 am
Sounds painful.
For you

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Colly » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:11 am

Sounds painful.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by bodacious benny » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:10 pm

I love an inverted winger <awe>

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by beatski » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:08 pm

Ritchie's definitely left footed (hence us playing him at left wing back!), he's played on the right as an 'inverted winger' for most of his career though so i can see why people might get confused.

Wouldnt mind seeing him back in attack if/when one of our other options is underperforming

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by bodacious benny » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:23 pm

Donkey Toon wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:18 pm
Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm
 So random question, when Ritchies fit does he come back in? Because I'm becoming a massive Willems fan.
Yes but not in place of Willems, coz like you I think he's becoming pretty good.

Ritchie did ok at LWB but his crossing was not great, hardly surprising as he is right footed and clearly preferred to cut inside rather than swing a cross in. So instead I would bring him back in at RWB in place of Yedlin/Krafth. If he could perform at LWB he should find it even easier at RWB and I would expect the quality of his crossing to improve.
Yeah I agree, and I think we need him in the team as he’s a leader on the pitch. You can guarantee he’d have been bollocking the f*** out of the players if he’d been on the pitch v Leicester. It’s not just that tho, I think he creates more chances than he gets credit for. I’d definitely have him as first choice RWB, Yedlin second choice (pace is useful but little to no end product) and Krafth some way back.

Willems definitely gives us a good attacking outlet down the left, seen as we’ve only scored about 5/6 goals this season and he’s got one goal and one assist I’d say that’s not bad at all.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Sir Bobby » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:21 pm

Donkey Toon wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:18 pm
Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm
 So random question, when Ritchies fit does he come back in? Because I'm becoming a massive Willems fan.
Yes but not in place of Willems, coz like you I think he's becoming pretty good.

Ritchie did ok at LWB but his crossing was not great, hardly surprising as he is right footed and clearly preferred to cut inside rather than swing a cross in. So instead I would bring him back in at RWB in place of Yedlin/Krafth. If he could perform at LWB he should find it even easier at RWB and I would expect the quality of his crossing to improve.
Pretty certain he’s left footed, just good with both

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Sir Bobby » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:19 pm

Remember Colo wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:12 pm
Sir Bobby wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:31 pm

What, exactly?
I don't think it's a coincidence the side attacked better in the second half of last season once he was brought in. After years of having a side where everyone looked afraid of the ball, it's a nice change to now have him, ASM, Willems, or even the Longstaffs who actually look like they want the ball going forward. I definitely think he's lost his confidence and its resulting in bad decision making, but I definitely prefer attack-minded players who make mistakes than the ones who hide from the ball all match not wanting to mess up.
Not that I disagree with most of what you’re saying and about preferring attack-minded wingers, but if that’s all he offers, which so far does seem to be it then either he needs to improve (which I think he will, although my hope is starting to fade) or we need a better winger.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Donkey Toon » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:18 pm

Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm
 So random question, when Ritchies fit does he come back in? Because I'm becoming a massive Willems fan.
Yes but not in place of Willems, coz like you I think he's becoming pretty good.

Ritchie did ok at LWB but his crossing was not great, hardly surprising as he is right footed and clearly preferred to cut inside rather than swing a cross in. So instead I would bring him back in at RWB in place of Yedlin/Krafth. If he could perform at LWB he should find it even easier at RWB and I would expect the quality of his crossing to improve.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Colly » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm

So random question, when Ritchies fit does he come back in? Because I'm becoming a massive Willems fan.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Remember Colo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:11 pm

overseasTOON wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:15 pm
Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:39 pm
 He does need to deliver soon though, what he did last year in lifting a few players away from Perez was great but for a player with his price tag he needs to be more productive. It is confidence though, there's times when he's hesitant to shoot when a first timer is the better option, and there's times when he's shooting when it's not really on and between those there's a lot of nothing sadly. Really makes me wonder what kind of player we'd be talking about had he put that lob in on his first game.

Needs to cut the diving out too, a) because it's not a good thing to do anyway and b) because he's s*** at it.
I'm glad he's playing though and he certainly tries to score everytime he's got a chance but to me he has to read the game better. Caught offside far too often, snatching shots when he has time, dwelling on shots when he has no time. Its a fine line at the moment which shows to me that he's still learning the English game; it'll come eventually as hes shown the skill.

He is s**** at diving though!
Definitely needs to improve his diving. I get annoyed when commentary talks about him needing to get used to the physicality of the English game. Clearly they haven't watched MLS before...talk about violent conduct.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by overseasTOON » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:15 pm

Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:39 pm
 He does need to deliver soon though, what he did last year in lifting a few players away from Perez was great but for a player with his price tag he needs to be more productive. It is confidence though, there's times when he's hesitant to shoot when a first timer is the better option, and there's times when he's shooting when it's not really on and between those there's a lot of nothing sadly. Really makes me wonder what kind of player we'd be talking about had he put that lob in on his first game.

Needs to cut the diving out too, a) because it's not a good thing to do anyway and b) because he's s*** at it.
I'm glad he's playing though and he certainly tries to score everytime he's got a chance but to me he has to read the game better. Caught offside far too often, snatching shots when he has time, dwelling on shots when he has no time. Its a fine line at the moment which shows to me that he's still learning the English game; it'll come eventually as hes shown the skill.

He is s**** at diving though!

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Remember Colo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:09 pm

Colly wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:39 pm
 He does need to deliver soon though, what he did last year in lifting a few players away from Perez was great but for a player with his price tag he needs to be more productive. It is confidence though, there's times when he's hesitant to shoot when a first timer is the better option, and there's times when he's shooting when it's not really on and between those there's a lot of nothing sadly. Really makes me wonder what kind of player we'd be talking about had he put that lob in on his first game.

Needs to cut the diving out too, a) because it's not a good thing to do anyway and b) because he's s*** at it.
Despite my defence, I do completely agree he needs to start producing. He gets into a lot of good positions, but they need to pay off with goals and assists.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Colly » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:39 pm

He does need to deliver soon though, what he did last year in lifting a few players away from Perez was great but for a player with his price tag he needs to be more productive. It is confidence though, there's times when he's hesitant to shoot when a first timer is the better option, and there's times when he's shooting when it's not really on and between those there's a lot of nothing sadly. Really makes me wonder what kind of player we'd be talking about had he put that lob in on his first game.

Needs to cut the diving out too, a) because it's not a good thing to do anyway and b) because he's s*** at it.

Re: Match day thread - NUFC v MUFC

by Remember Colo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:12 pm

Sir Bobby wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:31 pm
Don Sholeone wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:17 pm

Funny thing is it was Almiron who dribbled the ball out and played in ASM to start the counter attack for the goal. <laugh>

We would all like Almiron to be more productive going forward but if we take him out then we lose a lot from the team.
What, exactly?
I don't think it's a coincidence the side attacked better in the second half of last season once he was brought in. After years of having a side where everyone looked afraid of the ball, it's a nice change to now have him, ASM, Willems, or even the Longstaffs who actually look like they want the ball going forward. I definitely think he's lost his confidence and its resulting in bad decision making, but I definitely prefer attack-minded players who make mistakes than the ones who hide from the ball all match not wanting to mess up.

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