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Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by FOGGONTHETYNE » Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:25 am

ALF wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm


Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Barnes certainly offers a bigger goalscoring threat but Maxi created a hell of a lot more than Barnes does.
Supermac being sold to arsenal in "76, was a time I was heartbroken, watching him on MOTD playing for them was like seeing my lass with a new boyfriend, absolutely devastated I had posters of Supermac taped on my walls,..... But time is the only healer, and obviously now I feel a bit daft for allowing the sale of Supermac to effect me so profoundly but what can I say, I was young and it's just how I felt, thing is there's not many other players we've sold over the years that have affected me in the same way.... Maxi leaving was way disappointing, the spurs game just after the takeover he seriously was the only one trying the crowd were on their feet soon as he received the ball and burst forward trying to make things happen.... Really exciting player to watch but mostly no end product but I still have my toon shirt with his name on the back so he won't be forgotten in wor hoose.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Remember Colo » Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:14 pm

Colly wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:51 pm
But nowhere near what Gordon created last season. Exactly as you say while Maxi may have produced more in a better side, he isn't good enough to be in that better side. Gordon's already more than surpassed him, and Barnes absolutely has the potential to do so.
Oh I wouldn't dare suggest he's as good or productive as Gordon is - he now being one of the best wingers in the league. Although I also think Maxi would still have been good enough to have played in last year's side, especially with the benefit of injury hindsight. Though with our mutual luck he'd have been out injured all season too.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Don Sholeone » Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:07 pm

Maxi was amazing when we had no hope for a competitive team, could provide that spark for us to cheer about, in this current team we have the competitiveness and that hope that we lacked and Maxi became surplus.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Colly » Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:51 pm

But nowhere near what Gordon created last season. Exactly as you say while Maxi may have produced more in a better side, he isn't good enough to be in that better side. Gordon's already more than surpassed him, and Barnes absolutely has the potential to do so.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Remember Colo » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:40 pm

ALF wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm


Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Barnes certainly offers a bigger goalscoring threat but Maxi created a hell of a lot more than Barnes does.
Agreed. I think people really understate ASM's contributions. It's a fair criticism that his lack of availability became an issue, and clearly Howe has more confidence in those he replaced him with. But his ability to pick up the ball and drive out of our end was critical to alleviating pressure when we had a lesser squad, and I can just imagine how much space and chances he could have created now with the more free flowing counter attacking we now deploy. I won't pretend he was a consistent world beater, if he was he wouldn't have played for us or had to move to SA, but I do think he would create a lot of goals and assists in this team.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Colly » Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:15 pm

ALF wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm


Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Barnes certainly offers a bigger goalscoring threat but Maxi created a hell of a lot more than Barnes does.
Far too early to be deciding that surely?

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by ALF » Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am

FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm
Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am


Yeah in theory Barnes should be an upgrade because of consistency. Of course needs to stay fit for that
Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Barnes certainly offers a bigger goalscoring threat but Maxi created a hell of a lot more than Barnes does.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by FOGGONTHETYNE » Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:20 pm

Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:15 pm
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:16 pm


its probably different at the match with the noise but i find it quite cringey on tv, but i can live with it if he scores goals like that, least he's not booting the corner flag like someone else we know <whistle>
Remember when he booted it and it cracked someone in the knackers <laugh> Wonder if he'll score any goals for Pompey
there are fans who would proudly take a corner flag to the nuts kicked by a toon player, i think that person took it in good humour and to honour the occasion should have been presented with said corner flag signed by Ritchie

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Valentino's fast feet » Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:15 pm

FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:16 pm
Don Sholeone wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:59 pm


Always found Maxi very genuine with how he was in fan engagement, he was funny, but also knew how to be humble, grateful and serious.

On the pitch he could have been world class but he just didn't have that consistency in the final 3rd.

Barnes much more of a threat, just doesn't have all the jazz to go with it, and for the record I think his archer celebration is class.
its probably different at the match with the noise but i find it quite cringey on tv, but i can live with it if he scores goals like that, least he's not booting the corner flag like someone else we know <whistle>
Remember when he booted it and it cracked someone in the knackers <laugh> Wonder if he'll score any goals for Pompey

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by FOGGONTHETYNE » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:16 pm

Don Sholeone wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:59 pm
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm


Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Always found Maxi very genuine with how he was in fan engagement, he was funny, but also knew how to be humble, grateful and serious.

On the pitch he could have been world class but he just didn't have that consistency in the final 3rd.

Barnes much more of a threat, just doesn't have all the jazz to go with it, and for the record I think his archer celebration is class.
its probably different at the match with the noise but i find it quite cringey on tv, but i can live with it if he scores goals like that, least he's not booting the corner flag like someone else we know <whistle>

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Don Sholeone » Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:59 pm

FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm
Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am


Yeah in theory Barnes should be an upgrade because of consistency. Of course needs to stay fit for that
Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.
Always found Maxi very genuine with how he was in fan engagement, he was funny, but also knew how to be humble, grateful and serious.

On the pitch he could have been world class but he just didn't have that consistency in the final 3rd.

Barnes much more of a threat, just doesn't have all the jazz to go with it, and for the record I think his archer celebration is class.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by FOGGONTHETYNE » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm

Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:10 am
outstanding play by Barnes from a hopeful hoof upfield done well to keep it in for starters, the rest was just quality........the sale of st maxy broke my heart, but slowly accepting that barnesy can also produce the same magic, but more often with an end product.
Yeah in theory Barnes should be an upgrade because of consistency. Of course needs to stay fit for that
Maxys treble backward somersault goal celebration makes barnes' bow and arrow routine look a bit...what's the word....camp?

But as exciting as a player he was, aswell as being funny when he said "i couldn't give a f**k!" live on radio newcastle, Barnes is more of a team player and offers goals and assists as opposed to trying to be the court jester every time.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by bodacious benny » Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:50 pm

Don Sholeone wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:08 pm
I think we have seen enough of Barnes on the pitch already to know he's going to be a game changer if fit and has a prolonged run In the first team. His biggest issue is we also have Anthony Gordon which will really impact game time, unless we utilise both with one of both playing RW.
Yeah, you only have to look at his record in the season that Leicester went down, and glimpses last season that he's easily get double figure goals given enough games. I do think we'll see Gordon on the right at times, and hopefully in games that we're cruising Gordon can come off early for a rest. His injury last season was just bad luck.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Don Sholeone » Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:08 pm

I think we have seen enough of Barnes on the pitch already to know he's going to be a game changer if fit and has a prolonged run In the first team. His biggest issue is we also have Anthony Gordon which will really impact game time, unless we utilise both with one of both playing RW.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by bodacious benny » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:24 am

Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am
FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:10 am
outstanding play by Barnes from a hopeful hoof upfield done well to keep it in for starters, the rest was just quality........the sale of st maxy broke my heart, but slowly accepting that barnesy can also produce the same magic, but more often with an end product.
Yeah in theory Barnes should be an upgrade because of consistency. Of course needs to stay fit for that
Yeah, if you had to put money on someone putting the ball in the net you'd back Barnes all day long over ASM.

I think both are exciting players in different ways, Barnes is very direct and has a good shot on him, ASM was obviously Mr Trickery and try to beat 5 men.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Colback's Orange Tufts » Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am

FOGGONTHETYNE wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:10 am
outstanding play by Barnes from a hopeful hoof upfield done well to keep it in for starters, the rest was just quality........the sale of st maxy broke my heart, but slowly accepting that barnesy can also produce the same magic, but more often with an end product.
Yeah in theory Barnes should be an upgrade because of consistency. Of course needs to stay fit for that

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by FOGGONTHETYNE » Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:10 am

outstanding play by Barnes from a hopeful hoof upfield done well to keep it in for starters, the rest was just quality........the sale of st maxy broke my heart, but slowly accepting that barnesy can also produce the same magic, but more often with an end product.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Slim999 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:36 pm

Timshorts 2 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:20 am
Don Sholeone wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:53 pm
We win the Sela Cup once again and with it the £100m prize money <divax>
Is that real?

What a clever way to get a break with ffp.
A joke I'm sure

No money at stake for this

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Timshorts 2 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:20 am

Don Sholeone wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:53 pm
We win the Sela Cup once again and with it the £100m prize money <divax>
Is that real?

What a clever way to get a break with ffp.

Re: Pre-season 2024-25

by Don Sholeone » Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:53 pm

We win the Sela Cup once again and with it the £100m prize money <divax>

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