by Remember Colo » Tue May 21, 2019 2:00 pm
Blue & Maroon wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:18 pm
Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:14 pm
Agree about the wage cap, I would put good money on every single player in the PL going on strike if one was ever introduced such is the greed in football now. Footballers always come out with bollocks about needing to earn money for their families future as its a short career, but if you made say £50k a week for 10 years that’s still £26m so even after tax etc (and all the other image deals they’d have on top of that) that neither they nor their children would ever have to worry about money. And that’s just being super conservative, any wage cap would be much higher than that.
For some reason footballers in the top flight think they’ve got some divine right to earn £100k, £200k+ a week, and it’s only getting worse as it’s all the generations or players coming through now have ever known. Since the early 2000s boom the whole thing has gotten out of control. If players were told that if they took a 5% pay cut which meant fans would save 50% on season ticket prices there’s no way they’d do it. Or if wages were capped and more money trickled down to the lower leagues to help smaller clubs they’d also refuse, the whole system is bollocks.
I genuinely don't believe that it's the players demanding the outrageous wages, more the agents and companies they work for.
Also a general wage cap stops the current top clubs keeping a grip on their monopoly and allows smaller clubs to have a reasonable amount of investment to reach the top level.
You need a wage cap unrelated to income or crowd size or history or anything really, one that allows clubs to grow, keeps competition fair and protects players livelihoods.
The unfortunate reality is that sports/leagues with salary caps have parity as a key component of the league's values - or at least they like to project that to fans so they feel everyone has a chance for championships. That's extra necessary because they want to maintain franchise values and profiting from controlling access to the leagues comes at a price. It also means drafts, limits on international free agent signings, revenue sharing, etc. Problem is, football as a sport has no interest in suggesting that every team has an equal chance, they love promoting the big clubs too much and the big clubs wouldn't dare share their revenue with the smaller ones.
As for player wages and salary caps, the benefit of collective bargaining agreements is that you can set the league salary cap based on a set percentage of profits, so that way it's based on players getting their share of the profits from the product they create (and I'd rather they make the money than billionaires). That said, I blame owners more than players, because they haven't done anything to manage the value of the assets (players), instead owners have worked against their best interests for years by bidding up the price of players to astronomical levels.
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Agree about the wage cap, I would put good money on every single player in the PL going on strike if one was ever introduced such is the greed in football now. Footballers always come out with bollocks about needing to earn money for their families future as its a short career, but if you made say £50k a week for 10 years that’s still £26m so even after tax etc (and all the other image deals they’d have on top of that) that neither they nor their children would ever have to worry about money. And that’s just being super conservative, any wage cap would be much higher than that.
For some reason footballers in the top flight think they’ve got some divine right to earn £100k, £200k+ a week, and it’s only getting worse as it’s all the generations or players coming through now have ever known. Since the early 2000s boom the whole thing has gotten out of control. If players were told that if they took a 5% pay cut which meant fans would save 50% on season ticket prices there’s no way they’d do it. Or if wages were capped and more money trickled down to the lower leagues to help smaller clubs they’d also refuse, the whole system is bollocks.
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I genuinely don't believe that it's the players demanding the outrageous wages, more the agents and companies they work for.
Also a general wage cap stops the current top clubs keeping a grip on their monopoly and allows smaller clubs to have a reasonable amount of investment to reach the top level.
You need a wage cap unrelated to income or crowd size or history or anything really, one that allows clubs to grow, keeps competition fair and protects players livelihoods.
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The unfortunate reality is that sports/leagues with salary caps have parity as a key component of the league's values - or at least they like to project that to fans so they feel everyone has a chance for championships. That's extra necessary because they want to maintain franchise values and profiting from controlling access to the leagues comes at a price. It also means drafts, limits on international free agent signings, revenue sharing, etc. Problem is, football as a sport has no interest in suggesting that every team has an equal chance, they love promoting the big clubs too much and the big clubs wouldn't dare share their revenue with the smaller ones.
As for player wages and salary caps, the benefit of collective bargaining agreements is that you can set the league salary cap based on a set percentage of profits, so that way it's based on players getting their share of the profits from the product they create (and I'd rather they make the money than billionaires). That said, I blame owners more than players, because they haven't done anything to manage the value of the assets (players), instead owners have worked against their best interests for years by bidding up the price of players to astronomical levels.