by Remember Colo » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:47 pm
Don Sholeone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:38 pm
The jealousy argument is complete bollocks, take the Max Meyer reference above, its seen as ridiculous because the wage doesn't fall in line with productivity, if he or Matty were playing every game and contributing key goals and assists every week we wouldn't even need to debate this as nothing would be said. If anything we would all be arguing for him to get more money to make sure we keep him.
And yes clubs are raking in millions and it's fair players get rewarded for that, the problem though again arises when you look at contribution, has Matty contributed to the same level as ASM, or Dubravka, Hayden, Lascelles? He's had a handful of games and cameo appearances, and is getting a more than fair offer from the club. The players mentioned have done so much more than Matty has to put us in the position of making all this PL money
Alright, so my post was a bit flippant and not really about Matty's situation specifically. But when people broadly say that footballers should take less money than what another club is offering and just be grateful they get paid as much as they do, it does speak to how fans think as fans and not put themselves in the shoes of an employee.
Anyway, your very point highlights why it may not even be about the (alleged) 10k difference, but that he's hardly even played this year. So if he's perhaps being promised more opportunities elsewhere, or not receiving the reassurances of his role going forward here (how could he with the takeover looming), that might be better for him. Maybe he wanted to be loaned out for his development this year if he wasn't going to play? Ultimately, we don't know what the club thinks of him, or what he's thought of his last 12 months at the club (and we shouldn't, that's their business), but I think there can always be more to this, especially for young players, than just a money argument.
[quote="Don Sholeone" post_id=874819 time=1594154330 user_id=188]
The jealousy argument is complete bollocks, take the Max Meyer reference above, its seen as ridiculous because the wage doesn't fall in line with productivity, if he or Matty were playing every game and contributing key goals and assists every week we wouldn't even need to debate this as nothing would be said. If anything we would all be arguing for him to get more money to make sure we keep him.
And yes clubs are raking in millions and it's fair players get rewarded for that, the problem though again arises when you look at contribution, has Matty contributed to the same level as ASM, or Dubravka, Hayden, Lascelles? He's had a handful of games and cameo appearances, and is getting a more than fair offer from the club. The players mentioned have done so much more than Matty has to put us in the position of making all this PL money
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Alright, so my post was a bit flippant and not really about Matty's situation specifically. But when people broadly say that footballers should take less money than what another club is offering and just be grateful they get paid as much as they do, it does speak to how fans think as fans and not put themselves in the shoes of an employee.
Anyway, your very point highlights why it may not even be about the (alleged) 10k difference, but that he's hardly even played this year. So if he's perhaps being promised more opportunities elsewhere, or not receiving the reassurances of his role going forward here (how could he with the takeover looming), that might be better for him. Maybe he wanted to be loaned out for his development this year if he wasn't going to play? Ultimately, we don't know what the club thinks of him, or what he's thought of his last 12 months at the club (and we shouldn't, that's their business), but I think there can always be more to this, especially for young players, than just a money argument.
