England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

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Post by CIH » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:06 am

I think we are all glad Wilson didn't get a call up so that he can stay fresh for us, but considering the amount of forwards in the squad, he'd be entitled at being a bit miffed at missing out. Should probably be there ahead of Abraham. The lack of midfield creativity is really shocking though. Not sure what Maddisson has to do to be included.

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:09 am

I think Maddison has made one start and one sub appearance since a long injury layoff so not surprising he’s not included, but I’m sure he we’ll be going forward. Form was also very ropey second half of last season but definitely gives England something they lack in midfield.

Based on this seasons form then Wilson should be ahead of Abraham for sure, so thank you Southgate for sticking with your favourites instead <diva>
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Re: England Thread - Squad Announcement This Afternoon! (1st Oct)

Post by Beatski » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:37 am

CIH wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:06 am
I think we are all glad Wilson didn't get a call up so that he can stay fresh for us, but considering the amount of forwards in the squad, he'd be entitled at being a bit miffed at missing out. Should probably be there ahead of Abraham. The lack of midfield creativity is really shocking though. Not sure what Maddisson has to do to be included.
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Re: England Thread - Squad Announcement This Afternoon! (1st Oct)

Post by CIH » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:51 am

Beatski wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:37 am
CIH wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:06 am
I think we are all glad Wilson didn't get a call up so that he can stay fresh for us, but considering the amount of forwards in the squad, he'd be entitled at being a bit miffed at missing out. Should probably be there ahead of Abraham. The lack of midfield creativity is really shocking though. Not sure what Maddisson has to do to be included.
Needs a new manager. Southgate is allergic to a creative midfield
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Re: England Thread - Squad Announcement This Afternoon! (1st Oct)

Post by Remember Colo » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:01 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:09 am
I think Maddison has made one start and one sub appearance since a long injury layoff so not surprising he’s not included, but I’m sure he we’ll be going forward. Form was also very ropey second half of last season but definitely gives England something they lack in midfield.

Based on this seasons form then Wilson should be ahead of Abraham for sure, so thank you Southgate for sticking with your favourites instead <diva>
To be fair, if Abraham took Chelsea's penalties like Wilson does for us, he'd have more goals. I can understand Wilson having to show more after last year's mediocre season before he gets another chance.

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:44 am

Anyone watching tonight? I think this could actually be a decent match. Hopefully we see a bit more of a performance as we seem to have massively lapsed since the highs of 2018.
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Post by Bodacious Benny » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:59 am

The highs of losing to Belgium (twice) and Croatia at the World Cup? Of beating Tunisia 2-1? Of needing penalties to get past Colombia?

There was a 2-0 win against Sweden and smashing Panama for 6 I guess <roll>

Tongue in cheek, but on paper a WC SF looks great but the football wasn’t and England lost when it mattered against the good sides.
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by krully » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:12 am

Will it be coming home this time?

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:15 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:59 am
The highs of losing to Belgium (twice) and Croatia at the World Cup? Of beating Tunisia 2-1? Of needing penalties to get past Colombia?

There was a 2-0 win against Sweden and smashing Panama for 6 I guess <roll>

Tongue in cheek, but on paper a WC SF looks great but the football wasn’t and England lost when it mattered against the good sides.
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It's a high for England! After years of utter dross under Hodgson, Capello, McClaren etc. it felt like the nation was behind the team again, the squad was looking better than it had for years and there was a feeling we might actually get somewhere. Now it just feels like we have slipped back into boring football, uninterested players and nobody cares again <laugh>.

Shouldn't you be on the Scotland thread with OT? <roll>
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by overseasTOON » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:56 am

biggeordiedave wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:15 am
Bodacious Benny wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:59 am
The highs of losing to Belgium (twice) and Croatia at the World Cup? Of beating Tunisia 2-1? Of needing penalties to get past Colombia?

There was a 2-0 win against Sweden and smashing Panama for 6 I guess <roll>

Tongue in cheek, but on paper a WC SF looks great but the football wasn’t and England lost when it mattered against the good sides.
<laugh>

It's a high for England! After years of utter dross under Hodgson, Capello, McClaren etc. it felt like the nation was behind the team again, the squad was looking better than it had for years and there was a feeling we might actually get somewhere. Now it just feels like we have slipped back into boring football, uninterested players and nobody cares again <laugh>.

Shouldn't you be on the Scotland thread with OT? <roll>
We have a Scotland thread?

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:58 am

overseasTOON wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:56 am
biggeordiedave wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:15 am


<laugh>

It's a high for England! After years of utter dross under Hodgson, Capello, McClaren etc. it felt like the nation was behind the team again, the squad was looking better than it had for years and there was a feeling we might actually get somewhere. Now it just feels like we have slipped back into boring football, uninterested players and nobody cares again <laugh>.

Shouldn't you be on the Scotland thread with OT? <roll>
We have a Scotland thread?
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by overseasTOON » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am

biggeordiedave wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:58 am
overseasTOON wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:56 am


We have a Scotland thread?
No <laugh>
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by Beatski » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:17 am

can't wait to see two defensive mids. If we're lucky, Southgate might pair that with 3 at the back and a right footed left wing back <doh>

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by ALF » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:03 pm

Beatski wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:17 am
can't wait to see two defensive mids. If we're lucky, Southgate might pair that with 3 at the back and a right footed left wing back <doh>
Do we have a left back available for this game? Chilwell isn't playing this one after breaking lockdown rules.

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by CIH » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:13 pm

ALF wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:03 pm
Beatski wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:17 am
can't wait to see two defensive mids. If we're lucky, Southgate might pair that with 3 at the back and a right footed left wing back <doh>
Do we have a left back available for this game? Chilwell isn't playing this one after breaking lockdown rules.
I imagine Saka will play LWB in a three(five) at the back formation

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:36 pm

The Independent have predicted the lineups as:

England: Pope, Gomez, Coady, Keane, Trippier, Rice, Winks, Saka, Grealish, Calvert-Lewin, Ings

Wales: Hennessey; N. Williams, Mepham, Ampadu, Davies; Smith, Morrell, Brooks, J. Williams, James; Moore

That reads to me like this maybe?

---------------------Pope-------------------
---------Gomez -- Coady -- Keane------
Trippier-------------------------------Saka
----------------Rice-----Winks-------------
------------------Grealish-------------------
----------------Ings-----DCL---------------
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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:50 pm

gomez is in great form, nothing can go wrong.
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:56 pm

Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
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gomez is in great form, nothing can go wrong.
Thankfully our attackers are also in good form so hopefully that balances things out...
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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by ALF » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:05 pm

biggeordiedave wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:36 pm
The Independent have predicted the lineups as:

England: Pope, Gomez, Coady, Keane, Trippier, Rice, Winks, Saka, Grealish, Calvert-Lewin, Ings

Wales: Hennessey; N. Williams, Mepham, Ampadu, Davies; Smith, Morrell, Brooks, J. Williams, James; Moore

That reads to me like this maybe?

---------------------Pope-------------------
---------Gomez -- Coady -- Keane------
Trippier-------------------------------Saka
----------------Rice-----Winks-------------
------------------Grealish-------------------
----------------Ings-----DCL---------------
Who captains that side? <laugh>

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Re: England Thread - England vs Wales - 8/10 20:00 (ITV)

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:35 pm

ALF wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:05 pm
biggeordiedave wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:36 pm
The Independent have predicted the lineups as:

England: Pope, Gomez, Coady, Keane, Trippier, Rice, Winks, Saka, Grealish, Calvert-Lewin, Ings

Wales: Hennessey; N. Williams, Mepham, Ampadu, Davies; Smith, Morrell, Brooks, J. Williams, James; Moore

That reads to me like this maybe?

---------------------Pope-------------------
---------Gomez -- Coady -- Keane------
Trippier-------------------------------Saka
----------------Rice-----Winks-------------
------------------Grealish-------------------
----------------Ings-----DCL---------------
Who captains that side? <laugh>
Grealish is the only actual captain in that team I think, not that it means anything!
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