Premier League going Pay-Per-View, £15/game

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Post by Sir Bobby » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:32 pm

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Has season ticket money gone out? Given clubs don’t have a clue what’s happening I’d have thought they haven’t sorted season tickets for this year yet. But I’m not a ST holder so could be wrong.
Believe Ashley took payments like usual. I’d assume it would be refunded at the end of the season but until then you’re still out of pocket.

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Post by Scalabrine » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:33 pm

Cal wrote:
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So even in the "best" case there, that's £285 to see the otherwise untelevised games - about 30 hours of football - and of course that's ignoring your Sky Sports, BT Sport, Amazon Prime subscriptions... I wonder why people do this whole pirate streaming thing <scratch>
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Post by Remember Colo » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:43 pm

Ha! I pay $150 CAD a year for DAZN, which gives me access to every PL, cup, Champions League, Europa League, Serie A, Belgian league, and MLS match, not to mention every NFL game, boxing matches, Bellator, etc. That PPV price is insane and clearly out of line with the prices being charged by international broadcast partners.

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Ha! I pay $150 CAD a year for DAZN, which gives me access to every PL, cup, Champions League, Europa League, Serie A, Belgian league, and MLS match, not to mention every NFL game, boxing matches, Bellator, etc. That PPV price is insane and clearly out of line with the prices being charged by international broadcast partners.
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Post by Remember Colo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:25 am

biggeordiedave wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 am
Remember Colo wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:43 pm
Ha! I pay $150 CAD a year for DAZN, which gives me access to every PL, cup, Champions League, Europa League, Serie A, Belgian league, and MLS match, not to mention every NFL game, boxing matches, Bellator, etc. That PPV price is insane and clearly out of line with the prices being charged by international broadcast partners.
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Point is, y'all are getting screwed and the Premier League really needs some better domestic good will right now, and this is just another bad headline.

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am

Yeah I've always found it weird. My mate lives in Australia and can watch pretty much any PL game and he pays something like £10 a month. Should be the other way round where we get it cheap as it's 'our product' if you like, and other countries should pay more. Just like if you live in Spain you should get cheap La Liga coverage whereas we should have to pay more etc.
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Post by biggeordiedave » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
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Yeah I've always found it weird. My mate lives in Australia and can watch pretty much any PL game and he pays something like £10 a month. Should be the other way round where we get it cheap as it's 'our product' if you like, and other countries should pay more. Just like if you live in Spain you should get cheap La Liga coverage whereas we should have to pay more etc.
It's simply due to demand. They know that in the UK we want PL football and (most) are willing to pay for it, despite the fact that the coverage is limited to certain matches. They also want to give us a reason to actually go to the games in person too. In other countries where demand is lower, it would be easy to price people out of it. If I could get every La Liga match for £10 a month, I might be tempted. If it was £50 a month I wouldn't bother.

It's similar with the NFL pass I believe (someone correct me if I'm making this up!) In the UK you pay £107.99 for the season and get access to all live matches, playoffs, Superbowl etc. In the US, you can pay $99 for the pass, but you can only watch the games after they've finished on live TV. To get access to the matches live, you'd need to pay for a cable subscription.
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biggeordiedave wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 am
Bodacious Benny wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am
Yeah I've always found it weird. My mate lives in Australia and can watch pretty much any PL game and he pays something like £10 a month. Should be the other way round where we get it cheap as it's 'our product' if you like, and other countries should pay more. Just like if you live in Spain you should get cheap La Liga coverage whereas we should have to pay more etc.
It's simply due to demand. They know that in the UK we want PL football and (most) are willing to pay for it, despite the fact that the coverage is limited to certain matches. They also want to give us a reason to actually go to the games in person too. In other countries where demand is lower, it would be easy to price people out of it. If I could get every La Liga match for £10 a month, I might be tempted. If it was £50 a month I wouldn't bother.

It's similar with the NFL pass I believe (someone correct me if I'm making this up!) In the UK you pay £107.99 for the season and get access to all live matches, playoffs, Superbowl etc. In the US, you can pay $99 for the pass, but you can only watch the games after they've finished on live TV. To get access to the matches live, you'd need to pay for a cable subscription.
Yeah true. I think Premier Sports which now has the La Liga rights is £9.99 a month on Sky/Virgin/Online viewing or an annual pass is £99.

Edit: just had a look and 'Premier Player' so all 4 channels online only is £99 a year, if you want it on Sky/Virgin it's £9.99 a month.
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Post by biggeordiedave » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:39 am

The NFL have totally different blackout rules too which made for quite interesting reading. Whereas our blackout is 2:45 - 5:15 on a Saturday, their rules are that broadcasters cannot broadcast home matches within 75 miles of the home stadium, unless something like 85% of the tickets are sold within 72 hours of the game. If it is mostly sold, the broadcasters themselves just buy the rest of the tickets and give them away. Teams can also close of sections of their stadium, but then they are unable to sell tickets in those sections for the rest of the season.
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Post by Remember Colo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:50 pm

biggeordiedave wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:39 am
The NFL have totally different blackout rules too which made for quite interesting reading. Whereas our blackout is 2:45 - 5:15 on a Saturday, their rules are that broadcasters cannot broadcast home matches within 75 miles of the home stadium, unless something like 85% of the tickets are sold within 72 hours of the game. If it is mostly sold, the broadcasters themselves just buy the rest of the tickets and give them away. Teams can also close of sections of their stadium, but then they are unable to sell tickets in those sections for the rest of the season.
And interestingly baseball and hockey have even different blackout rules from them. For hockey (in Canada), regional broadcasts are available locally, but not elsewhere in the country (even though I'll have that regional channel) because one broadcaster has the national broadcast rights, then the other networks bought up regional broadcasts. Likewise for baseball, I have mlb.tv that gives me access to every game live and on-demand, except Toronto, because their cable national broadcast rights are owned by the team owner and only allows me to watch them on cable. All that to say, the NFL blackouts are to protect ticket sales, while other leagues protect their cable contracts. The Premier League tries to protect both, while also theoretically protect lower league ticket sales too.

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Post by biggeordiedave » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:21 pm

Remember Colo wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:50 pm
biggeordiedave wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:39 am
The NFL have totally different blackout rules too which made for quite interesting reading. Whereas our blackout is 2:45 - 5:15 on a Saturday, their rules are that broadcasters cannot broadcast home matches within 75 miles of the home stadium, unless something like 85% of the tickets are sold within 72 hours of the game. If it is mostly sold, the broadcasters themselves just buy the rest of the tickets and give them away. Teams can also close of sections of their stadium, but then they are unable to sell tickets in those sections for the rest of the season.
And interestingly baseball and hockey have even different blackout rules from them. For hockey (in Canada), regional broadcasts are available locally, but not elsewhere in the country (even though I'll have that regional channel) because one broadcaster has the national broadcast rights, then the other networks bought up regional broadcasts. Likewise for baseball, I have mlb.tv that gives me access to every game live and on-demand, except Toronto, because their cable national broadcast rights are owned by the team owner and only allows me to watch them on cable. All that to say, the NFL blackouts are to protect ticket sales, while other leagues protect their cable contracts. The Premier League tries to protect both, while also theoretically protect lower league ticket sales too.
That makes ours sound good to be fair.
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