NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by CIH » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:45 pm

Not sure what the point of loaning out Lejeune, seemingly to build match fitness, then loaning in someone else who hasn't played competitively for about eighty years. Suppose it's an easy link to Man U defenders with cabbageface in charge.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Don Sholeone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:14 pm

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Not sure what the point of loaning out Lejeune, seemingly to build match fitness, then loaning in someone else who hasn't played competitively for about eighty years. Suppose it's an easy link to Man U defenders with cabbageface in charge.
You are forgetting Lejeune possesses Bruce's kryptonite, a decent level of technical ability.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Sanchino » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:48 pm

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So we were linked with Jones, then Williams, and our third Man U defender link is Rojo!
Wouldn't mind Rojo. Experienced, over 60+ caps for Argentina and versatile. Can play in a back four or back five. Left-sided CB or LB/LWB. Him or Willems on loan would be decent but would still prefer Jetro. <awe>

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by ALF » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:00 am

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So we were linked with Jones, then Williams, and our third Man U defender link is Rojo!
Wouldn't mind Rojo. Experienced, over 60+ caps for Argentina and versatile. Can play in a back four or back five. Left-sided CB or LB/LWB. Him or Willems on loan would be decent but would still prefer Jetro. <awe>
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Colly » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:15 am

Yeah the hitrate of failed/past it Man Utd defenders isn't exactly great, off the top of my head I can only really think of Phil Neville at Everton and I guess Michael Keane who've been regarded fairly highly after the move? Defense (particularly CB) is an area where you can't afford mistakes, so if you're not good enough for a squad place in a top PL club you're unlikely to be good enough for a lower club either.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by ALF » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:44 am

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Yeah the hitrate of failed/past it Man Utd defenders isn't exactly great, off the top of my head I can only really think of Phil Neville at Everton and I guess Michael Keane who've been regarded fairly highly after the move? Defense (particularly CB) is an area where you can't afford mistakes, so if you're not good enough for a squad place in a top PL club you're unlikely to be good enough for a lower club either.
Jonny Evans is probably more highly regarded now than he was at Man United.

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Post by Colly » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:52 am

Good shout. I knew I'd forgotten someone obvious. There'll be others, but I still don't think there's many. Eventually Jones will move on and will either sink in the PL or be sensible and take a step down.

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:01 am

Yeah Evans for sure, more recently you could also say Chris Smalling has at least rebuilt his career and earned plaudits for his performances at Roma. Slim pickings though.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by ALF » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:30 am

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Yeah Evans for sure, more recently you could also say Chris Smalling has at least rebuilt his career and earned plaudits for his performances at Roma. Slim pickings though.
Yeah another good shout. Think he's a strange case though, banished from Man United when he was always better than Jones and Rojo who are still there and banished from England even when he's been playing really well in Italy.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by krully » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:59 pm

I'd like to avoid man utd rejects if possible

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Post by Colly » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:47 pm

I see Smalling's as an upward move...

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:04 pm

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I'd like to avoid man utd rejects if possible
Unless it’s a Lukaku shaped reject.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Sanchino » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:05 pm

ALF wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:30 am
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:01 am
Yeah Evans for sure, more recently you could also say Chris Smalling has at least rebuilt his career and earned plaudits for his performances at Roma. Slim pickings though.
Yeah another good shout. Think he's a strange case though, banished from Man United when he was always better than Jones and Rojo who are still there and banished from England even when he's been playing really well in Italy.
Yeah. Some players just don't suit certain teams.. Rojo could be useful as competition/cover for CB and LB unless we getting Jetro.. we need a LB to challenge & compete with Lewis as he's still raw and learning on the job.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by krully » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:22 pm

Colly wrote:
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I see Smalling's as an upward move...
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by CIH » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:09 am

Would anyone look at Zinchenko from City as cover/challenge at left back? Ostensibly a winger/cam I think, but played a lot of his senior football at City as a LB/LWB. Out of favour and may well be available on loan in January

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Post by Bodacious Benny » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:31 am

Tricky one as we don’t really know how good he is at actually defending given that City generally dominate play and possession. Being a LB or LWB for a team like us is about as far away from doing it for a team like city as you can get.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by CIH » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:42 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:31 am
Tricky one as we don’t really know how good he is at actually defending given that City generally dominate play and possession. Being a LB or LWB for a team like us is about as far away from doing it for a team like city as you can get.
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Valid point that I didn't consider. I think Willems would be most people's first choice if we can get him. Easily the best LB we've had since Enrique left. Concerns about his fitness/injury though.

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Speedo » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:27 am

CIH wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:42 am
Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:31 am
Tricky one as we don’t really know how good he is at actually defending given that City generally dominate play and possession. Being a LB or LWB for a team like us is about as far away from doing it for a team like city as you can get.
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Valid point that I didn't consider. I think Willems would be most people's first choice if we can get him. Easily the best LB we've had since Enrique left. Concerns about his fitness/injury though.
Willems is our best LB in a 5. Him or Lewis leave us desperately vulnerable in a 4 though. If we get another LB they need to best in a 4, otherwise we’re not fixing the vulnerability.
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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by Beatski » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:18 am

Speedo wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:27 am
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Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:42 am


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Valid point that I didn't consider. I think Willems would be most people's first choice if we can get him. Easily the best LB we've had since Enrique left. Concerns about his fitness/injury though.
Willems is our best LB in a 5. Him or Lewis leave us desperately vulnerable in a 4 though. If we get another LB they need to best in a 4, otherwise we’re not fixing the vulnerability.
What are you basing that on?

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (January 2021)

Post by krully » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:22 am

Willems goals were amazing

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