Sandro Tonali Deal Confirmed? You bet!

How long will Tonali be banned for?

Over 11.5 months
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Under 11.5 months
10
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Post by bodacious benny » Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:25 pm

Yep, it is absolutely undeniable that betting by players will take place through the game some way or another. Would be insanely naive for anyone to suggest that only those caught so far are the ones doing it. Law of averages and the immersion of betting in every aspect of football alone will say otherwise.

Match fixing will be much rarer but may well still happen, but betting will be rife.
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Post by Colly » Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:57 pm

The rumours are there's dozens in Italy in the same little "ring" as Tonali.

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Post by Don Sholeone » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:50 pm

A cynical part of me says Tonali and Zaniolo have been deliberately targeted as the first to be investigated due to moving to the PL. I have no obvious proof of this just a gut feeling, also the Italians are allegedly insisting that his rehabilitation takes place in Italy which to me is a very bizarre condition given the circumstances. Surely the punishments should be decided by independent footballing authorities too. Seems like a bit of a s*** show too with the club not being fed any official information and talk that it's not even been ratified by FIFA/UEFA yet.

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Post by UlversToon » Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:56 pm

Apparently it's now been ratified by FIFA and he can't play tomorrow.

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Post by Chappy » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:32 pm

UlversToon wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:56 pm
Apparently it's now been ratified by FIFA and he can't play tomorrow.
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Post by bodacious benny » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:35 pm

Can we play him tomorrow and claim we didn’t see the email as it was out of office hours on a Friday <roll>
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Post by jpg » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:38 pm

Colly wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:57 pm
The rumours are there's dozens in Italy in the same little "ring" as Tonali.
Italian football loves a scandal. You hope it didn’t involve many more high profile players. It’s a shame it has coincided with the league’s renaissance.

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Post by bodacious benny » Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:14 pm

Italy is pretty corrupt in lots of areas tbf <laugh>
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Post by UlversToon » Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:27 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:14 pm
Italy is pretty corrupt in lots of areas tbf <laugh>
Probably most rather than lots! 🤣

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Post by Timshorts 2 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:10 am

Don Sholeone wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:50 pm
A cynical part of me says Tonali and Zaniolo have been deliberately targeted as the first to be investigated due to moving to the PL. I have no obvious proof of this just a gut feeling, also the Italians are allegedly insisting that his rehabilitation takes place in Italy which to me is a very bizarre condition given the circumstances. Surely the punishments should be decided by independent footballing authorities too. Seems like a bit of a s*** show too with the club not being fed any official information and talk that it's not even been ratified by FIFA/UEFA yet.
That condition makes no sense. Why would you send a gambling addicted person back to the place that they were suffering from their addiction? It's like sending an American player that has been mixed up in some sort of gang gun violence at home, and who moved away to a pretty gun-free country to escape it all, back to the US.

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Post by lassassinblanc » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:07 am

I'll Hazard a guess

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Post by bodacious benny » Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:48 am

Given that he hardly speaks any English it’d be hard for him to undertake rehab here.
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Post by Chappy » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:00 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
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Given that he hardly speaks any English it’d be hard for him to undertake rehab here.

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Post by Don Sholeone » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:13 pm

Still find it absolutely backwards that the Italians get to be judge jury and executioner in all of this. I think it needed to be delt with independently. End of the day why should the Italian FA decide how long he's banned for in the PL and CL? There are huge conflicts of interest imo, you could argue the sentence would have been more lenient had he still been playing in Italy. It does feel like the whole process is on dodgy ground. Wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the end of it to be honest.

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:25 pm

Don Sholeone wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:13 pm
Still find it absolutely backwards that the Italians get to be judge jury and executioner in all of this. I think it needed to be delt with independently. End of the day why should the Italian FA decide how long he's banned for in the PL and CL? There are huge conflicts of interest imo, you could argue the sentence would have been more lenient had he still been playing in Italy. It does feel like the whole process is on dodgy ground. Wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the end of it to be honest.
One thing about that though, if they were tailoring the punishment then you'd think they'd have the ban to finish at the end of the club season. As it is, Tonali will miss the entirety of the euros if he wouldve been selected for Italy, and assuming they qualify.
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Post by Remember Colo » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:18 pm

If you break the laws and policies in a country and league, it's entirely reasonable for that jurisdiction to do the investigation and execute the punishment.

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:57 am

Remember Colo wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:18 pm
If you break the laws and policies in a country and league, it's entirely reasonable for that jurisdiction to do the investigation and execute the punishment.
Yeah I agree with this. And it seems he's admitted it, and sentencing isn't a jury decision <whistle>
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Post by lassassinblanc » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:09 pm

FA now looking into whether Tonali bet on English games since he moved here.
If he did he might be in more trouble.( Though any ban would run alongside his current one)

Ashworth also revealed club are investigating whether or not AC Milan were aware of potential issues prior to his move if so they might have to pay compensation
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Post by bodacious benny » Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:12 pm

I’d say there’s a high chance that Milan knew something, whether there’s anything to prove that is something entirely different. Tonali definitely wouldn’t grass them up.
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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:22 pm

https://x.com/NUFC/status/1773349453824409770?s=20


Apparently been charged with misconduct from the English FA now? No comment from the club at this time.
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