Matchday thread - Toon v Man U

[UlversToon]

Can we get revenge for last seasons' final defeat, well I bloody hope so!

Wednesday sees Newcastle in Carabao Cup Fourth Round action, their reward for defeating Manchester City in the Third Round a visit to Old Trafford and a rerun of last season's Wembley final.

It's an 8.15pm kick-off live on Sky Sports and an outcome must be achieved on the night via a penalty shootout if the scores are level after 90 minutes.

The Magpies will be backed by a sold out 7,300 fans.

The victors will take their place in the Quarter Final draw that will follow the conclusion of our tie.

Carabao Cup Fourth Round ties:

Tue 31.10.2023:
Exeter City 2-3 Middlesbrough
Mansfield Town 0-1 Port Vale

Wed 01.11.2023:
Bournemouth v Liverpool
Chelsea v Blackburn Rovers
Everton v Burnley
Ipswich Town v Fulham
Manchester United v Newcastle
West Ham v Arsenal

Team: Eddie Howe must do without Elliot Anderson, Harvey Barnes, Sven Botman, Alexander Isak, Jacob Murphy, Javier Manquillo and Sandro Tonali. Lewis Miley isn't expected to play.

Speaking to the media on Tuesday, Howe admitted that Botman had suffered a setback in his recovery and no return date had been set for the defender.

Tonali prices this tie as follows:

NUFC win 12/5
The draw 12/5
MUFC win 23/20
NUFC win on penalties 5/1
NUFC win to nil 24/5
Goal in both halves and draw 11/2

MUFC: Lisandro Martinez, Luke Shaw, Amad Diallo, Tyrell Malacia and Jadon Sancho remain out. The availability of Casemiro and Aaron Wan-Bissaka is tbc,

Ahead of our visit, the Red Devils were beaten 0-3 at Old Trafford by Manchester City on Sunday, their fourth loss in nine league and cup home games so far this season.

Erik Ten Haag's side reached this round thanks for a 3-0 Third Round home win over Crystal Palace.

Referee: Robert Jones - a second appointment for the Merseysider and another date in Manchester after our 0-1 PL loss at the Etihad Stadium last August.

VAR: Not in operation

UK TV: Live on Sky Sports

UK Radio: Live on TalkSPORT 2
Live on BBC Radio 5 Live Sport Extra
(Second half also live on BBC Radio 5 Live Sport)

Local Radio: Live on BBC Radio Newcastle

Stats:

Magpies v Red Devils in League Cup:

2022/23 lost 0-2 (Wembley)
2012/13 lost 1-2 (Old Trafford)
1994/95 won 2-0 (SJP)
1976/77 lost 2-7 (Old Trafford)

This will be Newcastle's 21st appearance in the last 16 of the League Cup. They've won 10 of the first 20:

1974/75 Fulham (h) won 3-0
1975/76 QPR (a) won 3-1
1976/77 Manchester United (a) lost 2-7
1994/95 Manchester City (a) drew 1-1
1994/95 Manchester City (h) R lost 0-2
1995/96 Liverpool (a) won 1-0
1996/97 smoggies (a) lost 1-3
1997/98 Derby County (a) won 1-0
1998/99 Blackburn Rovers (h) drew 1-1 (lost 2-4pens)
2000/01 Birmingham City (a) lost 1-2
2001/02 Ipswich Town (h) won 4-1
2004/05 Chelsea (h) lost 0-2aet
2005/06 Wigan Athletic (a) lost 0-1
2006/07 Watford (a) drew 2-2 (won 5-4pens)
2010/11 Arsenal (a) lost 0-4
2011/12 Blackburn Rovers (a) lost 3-4
2013/14 Manchester City (h) lost 0-2
2014/15 Manchester City (a) won 2-0
2016/17 Preston North End (h) won 6-0
2020/21 Newport County (a) drew 1-1 (won 5-4pens)
2022/23 Bournemouth (h) won 1-0

Magpies v MUFC @ Old Trafford - PL era:

2022/23 drew 0-0
2021/22 lost 1-4 Manquillo
2020/21 lost 1-3 Saint-Maximin
2019/20 lost 1-4 M.Longstaff
2018/19 lost 2-3 Kenedy, Muto
2017/18 lost 1-4 Gayle
2015/16 drew 0-0
2014/15 lost 1-3 Cisse(pen)
2013/14 won 1-0 Cabaye
2012/13 lost 3-4 Perch, og(Evans), Cisse
2012/13 lost 1-2 Cisse (LC)
2011/12 drew 1-1 Ba(pen)
2010/11 lost 0-3
2008/09 drew 1-1 Martins
2007/08 lost 0-6
2006/07 lost 0-2
2005/06 lost 0-2
2004/05 lost 1-2 Ambrose
2003/04 drew 0-0
2002/03 lost 3-5 Bernard, Shearer, Bellamy
2001/02 lost 1-3 Shearer
2000/01 lost 0-2
1999/00 lost 1-5 og(Berg)
1998/99 drew 0-0
1997/98 drew 1-1 Andersson
1996/97 drew 0-0
1995/96 lost 0-2
1994/95 lost 0-2
1993/94 drew 1-1 Cole

[bodacious benny]

I think we’ll lose 2-0, their reserve/rotated squad will be stronger than what we can field.

[UlversToon]

Smash & grab 1-0 for The Toon.

[Blue & Maroon]

Cant see anything but a loss with our current injuries

[originallad]

With our injuries I can't see how we win this. Very intrigued to see what our team will be though.

[Over The Line]

I imagine it'll be similar to the City game in defence.

No idea who will play up front.

1-0 loss unfortunately.

[bodacious benny]

With Arsenal and Dortmund coming up we definitely can’t risk Wilson. Wouldn’t be surprised if Isak is out for a while, as is usually the case when Howe has made it sound quite minor.

Gordon is our only real choice to play as a striker, he got a rest over the international break too. No idea who plays on the right with Murphy injured and Almiron needing a rest. Could maybe stick Ritchie or Krafth at RB and play Livramento a bit further forward.

[originallad]

https://www.redcafe.net/matches/manches ... 533/page-5

They don't seem very confident.

[lassassinblanc]

[Chappy]

https://www.redcafe.net/matches/manches ... 533/page-5

They don't seem very confident.

Neither side feeling confident and it's understandable. We've suffered a slight dip in form but I think considering the injuries we've still done incredibly well.

They have more depth than us and being at home you'd expect them to be favourites... but I didn't feel confident about the City game and we got thru. Who knows. HWTL!

[Blue & Maroon]

Yikes. Could be a long evening

[Valentino's fast feet]

Some er, interesting rotation there. It'll be fun. Looking like Hall starting in midfield which is curious, as I did wonder if he'd be deployed to fill in the Tonali gap short term. Supposedly his preferred position.

I live just outside Manc and was invited out to a man u supporting pub with man u supporting mates. I stayed in and made stew. Looking forward to it all the same haha.

[lassassinblanc]

Some er, interesting rotation there. It'll be fun. Looking like Hall starting in midfield which is curious, as I did wonder if he'd be deployed to fill in the Tonali gap short term. Supposedly his preferred position.

I live just outside Manc and was invited out to a man u supporting pub with man u supporting mates. I stayed in and made stew. Looking forward to it all the same haha.

What type of stew

[overseasTOON]

We do have injuries but Man Utd are there for the taking because they're s*** now.

[Remember Colo]

Don't expect any chemistry or fluidity from that lot of randomly assembled squad members, but maybe just maybe they'll have enough intensity trained into them to smash and grab a win from Man U's less rotated squad.

[Valentino's fast feet]

Some er, interesting rotation there. It'll be fun. Looking like Hall starting in midfield which is curious, as I did wonder if he'd be deployed to fill in the Tonali gap short term. Supposedly his preferred position.

I live just outside Manc and was invited out to a man u supporting pub with man u supporting mates. I stayed in and made stew. Looking forward to it all the same haha.

What type of stew

https://ibb.co/dj3BmB9

Chicken with potatoes, broccoli, carrots and cauliflower. Chilli and garlic for flavour. I'm no great cook, but I do make a banging stew. I tend to make one mid week after work, for various reasons. So far this season made a stew the same nights we played Milan and PSG. Didn't for Dortmund as went out for tea instead. If we win tonight I'll make a stew for every midweek game rest of the season

[originallad]

Don't expect any chemistry or fluidity from that lot of randomly assembled squad members, but maybe just maybe they'll have enough intensity trained into them to smash and grab a win from Man U's less rotated squad.

This regarding chemistry and fluidity. I think it was in the FA Cup last season when we lost against Sheff Wed where we played Lewis, Ritchie etc. Pretty much the whole team just looked liked they'd never played football before.

[Blue & Maroon]

Don't expect any chemistry or fluidity from that lot of randomly assembled squad members, but maybe just maybe they'll have enough intensity trained into them to smash and grab a win from Man U's less rotated squad.

Go a goal down and it's over.

[Chappy]

f*** me a minute in and Targett is signalling to the bench... it just gets worse

[UlversToon]

Targett down injured.