Howe under pressure?

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by Timshorts 2 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:38 pm

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Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:45 pm
Not for me personally, but from some other fans yes. but some fans are only ever 30 minutes from crisis.
Well yes, but by the very nature of that type of supporter, most of them support sides that wear red, not one that has lived through a decade of Mike Ashley.

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by Colly » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:21 pm

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Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:20 pm
I think it also highlights the challenge when a manager is wringing every drop of potential out of a side, it's hard to maintain that level long-term. A club needs to consistently add upgrades to change the dynamic, force tactical changes, add pressure, etc. to not stagnate and have a manager lose his influence. Unfortunately we've had no meaningful upgrades for a year now, opposing teams know what to expect, and the players have seemed to lose some focus and intensity. I say none of this to suggest EH has to be fired, but I don't think it's possible for a club to keep playing their best with a long-established manager and no big player upgrades to mix things up.
This is pretty much the crux of the issue though isn't it. If a good side isn't playing for the manager you often get rid of the manager and get a bit of a bounce, but I don't get the impression they aren't trying, the likes of Gordon and Isak are underperforming and Bruno is trying to do far too much. The squad clearly needs an upgrade, so the choice isn't between change the manager or change the players, it's between change the players or change the players AND the manager. Whoever Man Utd get in will have even more of an issue, at least our deadwood are coming towards the end of contracts on comparatively low wages.
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Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:38 pm
beatski wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:45 pm
Not for me personally, but from some other fans yes. but some fans are only ever 30 minutes from crisis.
Well yes, but by the very nature of that type of supporter, most of them support sides that wear red, not one that has lived through a decade of Mike Ashley.
We've got plenty of them, that's why we really don't need an 80,000 seater megadome. Will soon look empty the next time we finish 12th.

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by Remember Colo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:57 pm

Colly wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:21 pm
Remember Colo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:20 pm
I think it also highlights the challenge when a manager is wringing every drop of potential out of a side, it's hard to maintain that level long-term. A club needs to consistently add upgrades to change the dynamic, force tactical changes, add pressure, etc. to not stagnate and have a manager lose his influence. Unfortunately we've had no meaningful upgrades for a year now, opposing teams know what to expect, and the players have seemed to lose some focus and intensity. I say none of this to suggest EH has to be fired, but I don't think it's possible for a club to keep playing their best with a long-established manager and no big player upgrades to mix things up.
This is pretty much the crux of the issue though isn't it. If a good side isn't playing for the manager you often get rid of the manager and get a bit of a bounce, but I don't get the impression they aren't trying, the likes of Gordon and Isak are underperforming and Bruno is trying to do far too much. The squad clearly needs an upgrade, so the choice isn't between change the manager or change the players, it's between change the players or change the players AND the manager. Whoever Man Utd get in will have even more of an issue, at least our deadwood are coming towards the end of contracts on comparatively low wages.
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Well yes, but by the very nature of that type of supporter, most of them support sides that wear red, not one that has lived through a decade of Mike Ashley.
We've got plenty of them, that's why we really don't need an 80,000 seater megadome. Will soon look empty the next time we finish 12th.
To be clear, this is what I totally agree with. It isn't to suggest Howe needs to go, but that we weren't going to continue to overachieve thanks to him, or even necessarily just get the best out of everyone without some key improvements to force some innovation from Howe, light a fire under people, or even just unsettle everything a bit with new personalities and skills injected into the group.

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by Don Sholeone » Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:39 am

So the view is if we sign a better back up to Isak, sign another CB, and sign another CM (let's face it we won't unless we sell one of the 3 starters) and Add a RW, that solves all the issues and we are back on form and winning games again?

So basically we just need a CB and RW and a striker for the bench. Wanna be clear so if this actually happens and we are still tactically s*** we can bury this one for good.

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by Colly » Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:10 pm

Or we could do it without.

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by beatski » Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:11 pm

Pressure is for tyres <roll>

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Re: Howe under pressure?

Post by overseasTOON » Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:13 pm

Today just shows that Howe has unwavering loyalty to Bournemouth <fist>

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