Days lost through injury

originallad
France
France
Posts: 5295
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Greater Manchester

Days lost through injury

Post by originallad » Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:40 pm

I know we can't blame all our bad results/form on injuries but...


User avatar
bodacious benny
Italy
Italy
Posts: 36351
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:18 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by bodacious benny » Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 pm

Why haven’t they ranked it in order of days lost instead?
I'm the scumbag outlaw. You're the pillar of justice. Neither of us like looking at ourselves in the mirror. Do we have a deal?

originallad
France
France
Posts: 5295
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Greater Manchester

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by originallad » Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 pm
Why haven’t they ranked it in order of days lost instead?
Thought that myself. Would have made more sense.

Valentino's fast feet
Portugal
Portugal
Posts: 3597
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:07 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:16 pm

Probably to artificially augment Man U's position. If done in days lost then Brentford would be second, with Chelsea and Sheffield United making up the top five
Previously CIH/Cabella's Invincible Hair

Colly
Spain
Spain
Posts: 8784
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:44 pm
Location: Billingham

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Colly » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:23 pm

Don't forget that's just injury too so presumably doesn't include Tonali.

User avatar
Slim999
Shelvey's Precious
Posts: 435
Joined: Wed May 17, 2017 3:48 pm

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Slim999 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:32 pm

Cant help thinking how strong we could potentially look next season if we manage to hold onto Bruno & Joe-L and bring in a couple of new faces . Not sure how realistic it is to hang onto our Brazil boys however

Now with kids like Miley & others pushing into the squad , and the likes of Willock, Pope , Tonali, Anderson , Barnes , Tino, Murphy all pushing to get into the side ... we could end up with an embarrassment of riches if we're not in Europe.

Someone will need to go to help fund improvements - my money would be on Migy , Wilson and Longstaff.

Bring in a top striker to play with/ alternate with Isak , central defensive cover- and perhaps another defensive midfielder ( or move Schar there & find another centre half .

We could be a top 4 fiorce again I believe - dependant on the 3 or 4 faces who come/ go in summer

User avatar
bodacious benny
Italy
Italy
Posts: 36351
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:18 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by bodacious benny » Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:48 pm

With no Europe (if we (hopefully) finish outside the conference league places) I can definitely see us getting CL again next season.
I'm the scumbag outlaw. You're the pillar of justice. Neither of us like looking at ourselves in the mirror. Do we have a deal?

User avatar
beatski
Switzerland
Switzerland
Posts: 24258
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:19 pm
Location: The Dangerzone

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by beatski » Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:55 pm

Slim999 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:32 pm
Cant help thinking how strong we could potentially look next season if we manage to hold onto Bruno & Joe-L and bring in a couple of new faces . Not sure how realistic it is to hang onto our Brazil boys however

Now with kids like Miley & others pushing into the squad , and the likes of Willock, Pope , Tonali, Anderson , Barnes , Tino, Murphy all pushing to get into the side ... we could end up with an embarrassment of riches if we're not in Europe.

Someone will need to go to help fund improvements - my money would be on Miggy, Wilson and Longstaff.

Bring in a top striker to play with/ alternate with Isak , central defensive cover- and perhaps another defensive midfielder ( or move Schar there & find another centre half .


We could be a top 4 force again I believe - dependant on the 3 or 4 faces who come/ go in summer
Top of my list would be a first team right sided forward, especially if we're moving Miggy on. Although the club have said a 'versatile forward' is top of their agenda, so maybe we're bringing in someone that can play there and up top. That said, we're getting a lot of versatile players, and i'd prefer a dedicated RW and a young/rotation striker.

Will we get much money for Wilson? And I dont see us moving on Longstaff, for potential european squad players as he's club trained.

Would definitely want to see us bring in a proper defensive mid as we've all seen how much we've struggled in midfield defensively recently. Especially with Joelinton out, and especially with his current contract situation meaning we'll likely sell.

We need to sort our LB situation in the summer as well, whether that's bringing someone in or actually giving Hall or Targett some actual minutes there as Burn isnt the long term solution. On that note, we could potentially move on Burn and bring in Lloyd Kelly as his replacement in the squad; plays LB/CB for Bournemouth, was signed by Howe and is out of contract in the summer

Then we also need to sign a young CB as a long term successor to Schar.

Funnily enough this is pretty much exactly the same thing i was saying last summer too <erk>

User avatar
beatski
Switzerland
Switzerland
Posts: 24258
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:19 pm
Location: The Dangerzone

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by beatski » Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:03 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:48 pm
With no Europe (if we (hopefully) finish outside the conference league places) I can definitely see us getting CL again next season.
Nah, f*** that! We're 4 points off the Europa league and with an easier run of games than Man U. And WHam's luck has to run out eventually

If we have a strong end to the season it's definitely doable. If...

User avatar
ALF
Sleep is for Pussies
Sleep is for Pussies
Posts: 21842
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:46 pm
Location: Kent

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by ALF » Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:32 pm

Europa League or Europa Conference would be brilliant.

If we move past our injury worries next year, we'll have an embarrassment of riches in some areas. Europe against weaker opposition would be great for making sure Miley, Anderson, Hall, Tino get key minutes to keep developing. Also be tough to keep Tonali, Bruno, Willock, Longstaff, Joelinton happy if there's only PL and domestic cups with 3 places in midfield. Similarly, Gordon and Barnes.

Colly
Spain
Spain
Posts: 8784
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:44 pm
Location: Billingham

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Colly » Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:57 pm

Yeah, this "avoid Europe" thing is daft. Qualify for EL or ECL and you play a cup side in them anyway until the latter stages, with a bit of reinforcement and a little more luck with injuries/wacky bans for something we've more than enough to manage it.

Valentino's fast feet
Portugal
Portugal
Posts: 3597
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:07 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:16 pm

Fully agree with both, I don't get this idea of thumbing our nose at anything that's not champions league. We aren't there yet. The squad as a whole will massively benefit from further European experience. We've struggled massively this season (obviously the tough draws have an effect) due to having a small squad that are relatively naive when it comes to competing on four fronts. Which often leads to games twice a week most weeks. The more our core team get used to playing regularly, and maybe even at a lesser intensity in the conference or europa, the better. Plus the added benefit that the conference is eminently winnable for us.
Previously CIH/Cabella's Invincible Hair

User avatar
bodacious benny
Italy
Italy
Posts: 36351
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:18 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by bodacious benny » Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:52 pm

I’m in a minority, and definitely not turning my nose up at anything that’s not CL. I’d take Europa League, I just don’t rate or value the conference league one bit. It’s essentially the European equivalent to the football league trophy imo.
I'm the scumbag outlaw. You're the pillar of justice. Neither of us like looking at ourselves in the mirror. Do we have a deal?

User avatar
ALF
Sleep is for Pussies
Sleep is for Pussies
Posts: 21842
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:46 pm
Location: Kent

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by ALF » Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:31 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:52 pm
I’m in a minority, and definitely not turning my nose up at anything that’s not CL. I’d take Europa League, I just don’t rate or value the conference league one bit. It’s essentially the European equivalent to the football league trophy imo.
Even if it is the European equivalent of the pizza cup, I think any European football is huge for improving our coefficient so we can avoid another group of death when we do get back in the Champions League. We got 8 ranking points for this season, West Ham got 21 for winning the Conference League I think.

originallad
France
France
Posts: 5295
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Greater Manchester

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by originallad » Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:46 am

I don't care if we're playing some team who finished 3rd in the Albanian league, I'd take any sort of European football next season. As someone has said though, a Europa spot is still up for grabs.

User avatar
Blue & Maroon
France (Benzema)
France (Benzema)
Posts: 12085
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:13 pm

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Blue & Maroon » Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:07 pm

Winnable competition, valuable coefficient points up for grabs, less strenuous than the CL and a good cup run can do wonders for confidence.

Valentino's fast feet
Portugal
Portugal
Posts: 3597
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:07 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:36 pm

Blue & Maroon wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:07 pm
Winnable competition, valuable coefficient points up for grabs, less strenuous than the CL and a good cup run can do wonders for confidence.
<ok> This
Previously CIH/Cabella's Invincible Hair

User avatar
overseasTOON
Uruguay (Nunez)
Uruguay (Nunez)
Posts: 21942
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:53 am
Location: Location: Location

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by overseasTOON » Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:59 am

Blue & Maroon wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:07 pm
Winnable competition, valuable coefficient points up for grabs, less strenuous than the CL and a good cup run can do wonders for confidence.
Agree with above and I can't wait to play the third best team in Azerbaijan.

User avatar
bodacious benny
Italy
Italy
Posts: 36351
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:18 am

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by bodacious benny » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:03 am

overseasTOON wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:59 am
Blue & Maroon wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:07 pm
Winnable competition, valuable coefficient points up for grabs, less strenuous than the CL and a good cup run can do wonders for confidence.
Agree with above and I can't wait to play the third best team in Azerbaijan.
Neftçi PFK, beaten 1-4 at home to Qarabag yesterday - Hall may even get a game :bandit:
I'm the scumbag outlaw. You're the pillar of justice. Neither of us like looking at ourselves in the mirror. Do we have a deal?

User avatar
beatski
Switzerland
Switzerland
Posts: 24258
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:19 pm
Location: The Dangerzone

Re: Days lost through injury

Post by beatski » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:10 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:03 am
overseasTOON wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:59 am


Agree with above and I can't wait to play the third best team in Azerbaijan.
Neftçi PFK, beaten 1-4 at home to Qarabag yesterday - Hall may even get a game :bandit:
i'll have what youre having

Post Reply