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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:57 pm

Would be interesting if Poch would come, but I'm operating under the assumption that Howe wouldn't leave just yet.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Don Sholeone » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:03 pm

I think Howe would give everyone exactly what they want with this England team. He would impose our quality on other teams, no question about that.

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Post by jpg » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:10 pm

He’d probably be a favourite for the job but don’t think he’d want to leave club football.

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:14 pm

I think he's huge on system. And you don't get enough time in international football to instill it
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by originallad » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:35 pm

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Don’t care if we’re s***, we’re through. Southgate is gone after the tournament regardless. Enjoy it while it lasts.

The apathy feels an issue for international football in general; over-expansion and eclipsed by standard of club football, of which there is too much.

Also I’m getting older and have adult life to get on with - can’t believe I’m saying this.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by originallad » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:36 pm

Bruce for England I say.

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Post by bodacious benny » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:54 pm

I got two ikea wardrobes built while England were playing so used my time well.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:56 pm

Oh f*** I volunteered to interview someone on US time.

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Post by beatski » Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:51 pm

Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
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I think he's huge on system. And you don't get enough time in international football to instill it
Depends on the system. And considering how many of the top players play a high pressing system at their clubs, it wouldn't be that much of an adjustment IMO. Which I feel is one of Southgate's (many) mistakes, getting players to play so differently to how they're used to

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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Over The Line » Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:54 am

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Would be interesting if Poch would come, but I'm operating under the assumption that Howe wouldn't leave just yet.
I think with Mitchell now on board, I think it's almost a guarantee that if Howe left before Poch had another job, he'll be coming here.

They had success at both Southampton and Spurs together so can see it happening.

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Post by overseasTOON » Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:55 am

Wait. Is this thing still going on?

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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:19 am

Over The Line wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:54 am
Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:57 pm
Would be interesting if Poch would come, but I'm operating under the assumption that Howe wouldn't leave just yet.
I think with Mitchell now on board, I think it's almost a guarantee that if Howe left before Poch had another job, he'll be coming here.

They had success at both Southampton and Spurs together so can see it happening.
That's a fair point, didn't think of that. Would rather Howe finish what he started, but wouldn't begrudge him for taking the England job. Poch would definitely be high on list of replacements, if not number one, if we could get him.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by bodacious benny » Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:04 pm

Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:19 am
Over The Line wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:54 am


I think with Mitchell now on board, I think it's almost a guarantee that if Howe left before Poch had another job, he'll be coming here.

They had success at both Southampton and Spurs together so can see it happening.
That's a fair point, didn't think of that. Would rather Howe finish what he started, but wouldn't begrudge him for taking the England job. Poch would definitely be high on list of replacements, if not number one, if we could get him.
England is a tricky one. Howe is still young and loves the day-to-day, he won’t get that with England with large breaks between training camps, matches etc.

But IF he was offered the job it could literally be the only time in his career that he has the opportunity as football is fickle and who knows how things go in future. His stock is still relatively high, but say we had a bad season and he was fired it would set back talk or any possible England role for years probably.

On Poch, I think he’s a bit overrated.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:41 pm

bodacious benny wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:04 pm
Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:19 am


That's a fair point, didn't think of that. Would rather Howe finish what he started, but wouldn't begrudge him for taking the England job. Poch would definitely be high on list of replacements, if not number one, if we could get him.
England is a tricky one. Howe is still young and loves the day-to-day, he won’t get that with England with large breaks between training camps, matches etc.

But IF he was offered the job it could literally be the only time in his career that he has the opportunity as football is fickle and who knows how things go in future. His stock is still relatively high, but say we had a bad season and he was fired it would set back talk or any possible England role for years probably.

On Poch, I think he’s a bit overrated.
I know what you mean with the overrated comment, and I do lean to agreement. I do think he's a good manager, if not quite elite. Just a name that comes up that's available and could well be interested. Out of curiosity is there anyone that comes to mind for yourself if our job csme up? Not a dig, genuinely like to hear other input.

As for England, again very true. When we finished 5th under Pardew, old smarmy bollocks thought he was a shoe in to be the next England manager. No doubt he was on a list somewhere, but he fell from grace very quickly. A little unfair a comparison to be fair, as Howe is a far better manager. And probably a better man.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by bodacious benny » Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:28 pm

Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:41 pm
bodacious benny wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:04 pm


England is a tricky one. Howe is still young and loves the day-to-day, he won’t get that with England with large breaks between training camps, matches etc.

But IF he was offered the job it could literally be the only time in his career that he has the opportunity as football is fickle and who knows how things go in future. His stock is still relatively high, but say we had a bad season and he was fired it would set back talk or any possible England role for years probably.

On Poch, I think he’s a bit overrated.
I know what you mean with the overrated comment, and I do lean to agreement. I do think he's a good manager, if not quite elite. Just a name that comes up that's available and could well be interested. Out of curiosity is there anyone that comes to mind for yourself if our job csme up? Not a dig, genuinely like to hear other input.

As for England, again very true. When we finished 5th under Pardew, old smarmy bollocks thought he was a shoe in to be the next England manager. No doubt he was on a list somewhere, but he fell from grace very quickly. A little unfair a comparison to be fair, as Howe is a far better manager. And probably a better man.
Yeah I'd say that's a fair comment on Poch, he's the next rung down from the 'elite' for sure. I wouldn't put him as any better than Howe. Both have some strengths, both have some limitations. I don't really follow much overseas football, but domestically I'd rate Emery highly (even before last season I thought he was a very good coach and badly / harshly treated by Arsenal). Not one we'd get at this moment in time as why would he leave Villa, but would be very happy if hypothetically he got offered the job here (again).
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:49 pm

bodacious benny wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:28 pm
Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:41 pm


I know what you mean with the overrated comment, and I do lean to agreement. I do think he's a good manager, if not quite elite. Just a name that comes up that's available and could well be interested. Out of curiosity is there anyone that comes to mind for yourself if our job csme up? Not a dig, genuinely like to hear other input.

As for England, again very true. When we finished 5th under Pardew, old smarmy bollocks thought he was a shoe in to be the next England manager. No doubt he was on a list somewhere, but he fell from grace very quickly. A little unfair a comparison to be fair, as Howe is a far better manager. And probably a better man.
Yeah I'd say that's a fair comment on Poch, he's the next rung down from the 'elite' for sure. I wouldn't put him as any better than Howe. Both have some strengths, both have some limitations. I don't really follow much overseas football, but domestically I'd rate Emery highly (even before last season I thought he was a very good coach and badly / harshly treated by Arsenal). Not one we'd get at this moment in time as why would he leave Villa, but would be very happy if hypothetically he got offered the job here (again).
Yeah, bang on with Emery, he's done an excellent job at Villa. He's done well everywhere, except at clubs where he was expected to make that "jump" to elite. Could still yet. As happy as I am with Howe, I remember being very excited when first having concrete talks with Emery at the time. As you briefly touched upon their, there's no way he leaves Villa for us at this time. At the minute they are arguably a slightly better prospect. It's interesting how some clubs and managers really slot together, like Klopp and Liverpool. I think Emery and Villa are something of the same.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Over The Line » Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:59 am

Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:41 pm
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Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:04 pm


England is a tricky one. Howe is still young and loves the day-to-day, he won’t get that with England with large breaks between training camps, matches etc.

But IF he was offered the job it could literally be the only time in his career that he has the opportunity as football is fickle and who knows how things go in future. His stock is still relatively high, but say we had a bad season and he was fired it would set back talk or any possible England role for years probably.

On Poch, I think he’s a bit overrated.
I know what you mean with the overrated comment, and I do lean to agreement. I do think he's a good manager, if not quite elite. Just a name that comes up that's available and could well be interested. Out of curiosity is there anyone that comes to mind for yourself if our job csme up? Not a dig, genuinely like to hear other input.

As for England, again very true. When we finished 5th under Pardew, old smarmy bollocks thought he was a shoe in to be the next England manager. No doubt he was on a list somewhere, but he fell from grace very quickly. A little unfair a comparison to be fair, as Howe is a far better manager. And probably a better man.

I think after seeing Chelsea go for Enzo, Manu sticking with Ten Hagg and everyone being linked with McKenna etc from the champiionship, i think there is a serious lack of options out there at the moment.

England wise, I don't think it'll be Howe. I think they'll either promote within from the U21 or I can see it being someone like Lampard. He's no worse (or better) than Southgate.

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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by bodacious benny » Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:05 am

Over The Line wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:59 am
Valentino's fast feet wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:41 pm


I know what you mean with the overrated comment, and I do lean to agreement. I do think he's a good manager, if not quite elite. Just a name that comes up that's available and could well be interested. Out of curiosity is there anyone that comes to mind for yourself if our job csme up? Not a dig, genuinely like to hear other input.

As for England, again very true. When we finished 5th under Pardew, old smarmy bollocks thought he was a shoe in to be the next England manager. No doubt he was on a list somewhere, but he fell from grace very quickly. A little unfair a comparison to be fair, as Howe is a far better manager. And probably a better man.

I think after seeing Chelsea go for Enzo, Manu sticking with Ten Hagg and everyone being linked with McKenna etc from the champiionship, i think there is a serious lack of options out there at the moment.

England wise, I don't think it'll be Howe. I think they'll either promote within from the U21 or I can see it being someone like Lampard. He's no worse (or better) than Southgate.
Lineker was bigging up Lampard, he did do a decent job at derby and in his first season at Chelsea - but you’d have thought the national team job should be earned on coaching merit and not reputation as a player.
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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Colly » Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:50 am

If nothing else a blank managerial slate would probably be more welcome than Lampards record of failure.

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Re: Euro 2024 chat

Post by Over The Line » Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:25 am

I do wonder what Graham Potter is holding out for.

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