Carr Gone

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by ALF » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:42 am

Alfie wrote:I'm sure Rafa will Carr-y on the recruitment process without him.

Not sure how I feel about this, he found us the likes of Cabaye, Tiote, Debuchy, Ben Arfa, Ba & Papiss (1st season)

on the other hand he brought in Sissokko, Thauvin, Marveaux, Cabella & Papiss (rest of the time he was with us)

He was very hit and miss with his recruitment.
Sissoko was sold for a huge profit, that alone makes that a success. Marveaux was a free transfer and did a job on occasion. Thauvin is a brilliant player but never wanted to come here, can't blame Carr for that. Cabella wasn't a bad player, we gave up on him far too soon.

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by Colly » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:44 pm

Don't forget as well that he was the scout, while he undoubtedly had a great deal of influence his role was to identify targets not to sign players. He spotted a number of gems at bargain basement prices, who knows who was on his lists if we'd actually been willing to spend some money.

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by Holystone... » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:46 pm

Leads alluded to they very point after he left ( and had a free opinion ). We were trying to buy them cheap AND buy players who would be sold on as proven quality Premiership standard.
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Re: Carr Gone

Post by biggeordiedave » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:01 pm

Alfie wrote:I'm sure Rafa will Carr-y on the recruitment process without him.

Not sure how I feel about this, he found us the likes of Cabaye, Tiote, Debuchy, Ben Arfa, Ba & Papiss (1st season)

on the other hand he brought in Sissokko, Thauvin, Marveaux, Cabella & Papiss (rest of the time he was with us)

He was very hit and miss with his recruitment.
I don't think he really "found" any of those players.

Cabaye - integral role with French champions.
Tiote - league winner in Netherlands.
Debuchy - French international who played very well in Euro 2012.
Ben Arfa - already very highly rated player playing CL football.
Ba - already looking good in the PL.
Cisse - scoring for fun in the Bundesliga and very highly rated.

It's not as if he found these players in the Venezualan 3rd division.
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Re: Carr Gone

Post by Double Agent Bruce a.k.a DAB » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

But he found them for himself. That should count for something.

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by bodacious benny » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:41 pm

They weren't hidden gems by any stretch.
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Re: Carr Gone

Post by overseasTOON » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:02 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:They weren't hidden gems by any stretch.
Very true.

Most of them had good YouTube montages and were rated well on FIFA games of their time.

I was a better scout. I was chatting about Eden Hazard when he was 13/14 years old. Alas I stuck my colours on Jelle Vossens pole.

None of that was perverted by the way.

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by beatski » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:55 pm

Pretty much makes all scouts irrelevant if it doesn't count when the players they brought in were already known to someone

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Re: Carr Gone

Post by Speedo » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:13 am

biggeordiedave wrote:
Alfie wrote:I'm sure Rafa will Carr-y on the recruitment process without him.

Not sure how I feel about this, he found us the likes of Cabaye, Tiote, Debuchy, Ben Arfa, Ba & Papiss (1st season)

on the other hand he brought in Sissokko, Thauvin, Marveaux, Cabella & Papiss (rest of the time he was with us)

He was very hit and miss with his recruitment.
I don't think he really "found" any of those players.

Cabaye - integral role with French champions.
Tiote - league winner in Netherlands.
Debuchy - French international who played very well in Euro 2012.
Ben Arfa - already very highly rated player playing CL football.
Ba - already looking good in the PL.
Cisse - scoring for fun in the Bundesliga and very highly rated.

It's not as if he found these players in the Venezualan 3rd division.
OK BGD - would you let me know who in the Dutch title winning side we should sign, and who are available for a bargain fee?
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Re: Carr Gone

Post by biggeordiedave » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:42 am

Speedo wrote:
biggeordiedave wrote:
I don't think he really "found" any of those players.

Cabaye - integral role with French champions.
Tiote - league winner in Netherlands.
Debuchy - French international who played very well in Euro 2012.
Ben Arfa - already very highly rated player playing CL football.
Ba - already looking good in the PL.
Cisse - scoring for fun in the Bundesliga and very highly rated.

It's not as if he found these players in the Venezualan 3rd division.
OK BGD - would you let me know who in the Dutch title winning side we should sign, and who are available for a bargain fee?
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Re: Carr Gone

Post by bobcostolo » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:27 pm

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