Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:51 pm

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Looks like Zinchenko may be on his way to Wolves for £16m. Hard to judge his potential but he looked quite decent when he played for Man C last season, although playing in that team obviously helps.

£16m isn't a lot nowadays and he's only 21, might have been worth a look as a LB / wingback to rotate with Dummett. Rafa does like younger players that he can develop too.
He's pretty s*** when it comes to developing young players <scratch>

Wouldn't surprise me if he's going to play CM at Wolves as well.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Remember Colo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:04 pm

Blještav Benny wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:51 pm
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He's pretty s*** when it comes to developing young players <scratch>

Wouldn't surprise me if he's going to play CM at Wolves as well.
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(Ok, one player doesn't prove a point!)
He's definitely gotten better under him, but he was already a starting CB when Rafa took over, and I think the thing I still have questions about is how well he can work a young player into the squad. Not to say he isn't good at it, just that it's been hard to judge so far because he was pretty committed to his preferred lineup last year so I'm withholding judgement for now.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:22 pm

Eu estou Colo wrote:
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Lascelles <roll>

(Ok, one player doesn't prove a point!)
He's definitely gotten better under him, but he was already a starting CB when Rafa took over, and I think the thing I still have questions about is how well he can work a young player into the squad. Not to say he isn't good at it, just that it's been hard to judge so far because he was pretty committed to his preferred lineup last year so I'm withholding judgement for now.
Perhaps, maybe it's just a perception that I have as he signs all these random players when in reality a lot of them may not be young, just not very well known.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Remember Colo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:50 pm

Blještav Benny wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:22 pm
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He's definitely gotten better under him, but he was already a starting CB when Rafa took over, and I think the thing I still have questions about is how well he can work a young player into the squad. Not to say he isn't good at it, just that it's been hard to judge so far because he was pretty committed to his preferred lineup last year so I'm withholding judgement for now.
Perhaps, maybe it's just a perception that I have as he signs all these random players when in reality a lot of them may not be young, just not very well known.
I think that's fair, his recruitment choices the past couple years have felt pretty scattershot, and then seems like he doesn't have a plan for how he'll use some of them, or how to put them in a position to succeed. Might sound like I'm being really critical, when really I can't argue with the results.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Heisen » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:15 am

Dummett and Perez have both improved under him, and I'd argue the fact he's got ridden of pretty much our entire U23 squad speaks more for their raw ablity as players rather than his ability to develop them.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by ALF » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:53 am

Edison Heisen wrote:
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Dummett and Perez have both improved under him, and I'd argue the fact he's got ridden of pretty much our entire U23 squad speaks more for their raw ablity as players rather than his ability to develop them.

Both established first team players rather than young prospects though. In 2 and a bit years he's not brought a single player through despite a couple being on the fringe when he took the job.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Don Sholeone » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:35 pm

Rafa can't turn water into wine #RAFAOUT!!! <fist>
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Remember Colo » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:19 am

Don Sholeone wrote:
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Rafa can't turn water into wine #RAFAOUT!!! <fist>
I wasn't suggesting he has to go, or that I was even talking about academy players. Just that it seems tough to crack his squads because once he's set his system he doesn't do too much rotation, and usually keeps substitute appearances pretty short. If you're a young or new player trying to break into the side and earn more minutes, it seems like it could be a bit daunting (I'd use Murphy as an example). I'm not even complaining that Rafa took that approach, because it worked for us, and the consistency probably got them to overachieving 10th - just that it might be a bit hard on the edge of the squad.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by overseasTOON » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:11 pm

Jack Wilshere has signed a 20 match deal with West Ham.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:09 am

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:06 pm

Ronaldo to Juve for £105mil

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:19 pm

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Ronaldo to Juve for £105mil
Staggering for a 33 year old. But he's probably got 5 decent seasons left (if not more, the mans a machine) so £20m per season (before wages) doesn't sound unreasonable for a guaranteed 30 odd goals. Although Italy is a more defensive league there are still some s*** teams in Serie A that he'll absolutely nail.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by ALF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:34 pm

Now starts his big decline. He will flop.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by TBC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:43 pm

ALF wrote:
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Now starts his big decline. He will flop.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by ColbacksFlamingBarnet » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 pm

Joselu to Real then?

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:24 pm

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Joselu to Real then?
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Remember Colo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:25 pm

TBC wrote:
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Now starts his big decline. He will flop.
Serie A top goal scorer next season, bookmark
I'd go as far to say next 2-3 even. It may be a more defensive league overall, but there's always a couple really high goal scorers, and I've no doubt he'll be one, especially with how Juve dominate the league.

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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by Bodacious Benny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:01 pm

Man C have confirmed the deal for Mahrez.
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Re: Other Clubs Transfers Summer 2018/19

Post by TBC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:46 pm

Undoubtedly a great player but a very different kind of player to Sane/Sterling who I don’t think could have played much better either side of Aguero last season.
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