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Post by Toondes » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:28 pm

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:32 pm

Wasn't there a summer where we signed like four in five days or something? I think Cabella was one of them.
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Post by bodacious benny » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:42 pm

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Wasn't there a summer where we signed like four in five days or something? I think Cabella was one of them.
Yeah I remember that <awe>

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:56 pm

Muto, Byran and... Hazard? <fist>
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Post by omegaprimevkm » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:13 pm

CIH wrote:
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Muto, Byran and... Hazard? <fist>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_Hazard

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:48 pm

More of a reference to the girl's arse in white.
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Re: Yoshinori Muto Transfer Thread- (9.5m fee agreed)

Post by jpg » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:43 pm

CIH wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:27 pm
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Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:40 pm


Always considered Perez to a natural striker and not a number 10.
I see him more as a 10 personally, and I think he's mostly played there as well. Pretty sure he was a 10 at Tenerife, was played up front for us under Pardew primarilly due to injjuries I think. Was definitely not meant to be in the first team as early as he was. If you think Perez is a striker, and based on what you quoted, does that mean you see Muto as a 10 then? As in, not as competition to Perez. Genuinely curious, as I've seen a few people say that, but I thought muto was being brought in as a striker.
I don't know enough about Muto but looks to be more of a striker/winger, and not a direct replacement for Perez. I think Perez's defensive work rate is the reason he's get stuck in the number 10/second-striker role, which is shame because he's such an instinctive finisher.

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Post by Remember Colo » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:45 pm

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I see him more as a 10 personally, and I think he's mostly played there as well. Pretty sure he was a 10 at Tenerife, was played up front for us under Pardew primarilly due to injjuries I think. Was definitely not meant to be in the first team as early as he was. If you think Perez is a striker, and based on what you quoted, does that mean you see Muto as a 10 then? As in, not as competition to Perez. Genuinely curious, as I've seen a few people say that, but I thought muto was being brought in as a striker.
I don't know enough about Muto but looks to be more of a striker/winger, and not a direct replacement for Perez. I think Perez's defensive work rate is the reason he's get stuck in the number 10/second-striker role, which is shame because he's such an instinctive finisher.
Tend to agree. His finishing is probably his best quality. I've never found him to be much of a creator, and don't think he gets on the ball enough - both of which are important qualities of 10s.

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Post by beatski » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:34 am

http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2018/07/29/ma ... nufc-fans/

^ Mainz fan answering questions about Muto

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Post by Don Sholeone » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:55 am

He does sound more of a Gayle replacement with Rondon being mitros, by the sounds of it he's probably an improvement on Gayle , only time will tell with Rondon.

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Post by Chappy » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:41 pm

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:56 pm

If he doesn't sign, I find it reasonable to blame it all on lassassinblanc
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Post by Speedo » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 am

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How long will this take?
I might have imagined this entirely but I think I saw somewhere the work permit hearing is on Thursday.
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Post by omegaprimevkm » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:01 am

Speedo wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 am
Chappy wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:41 pm
How long will this take?
I might have imagined this entirely but I think I saw somewhere the work permit hearing is on Thursday.

It's usually at least a week, but judging by the number of caps that the lad has and the fact he was in the WC squad, the likelihood of this being denied is very low. I believe there used to be an arbitrary measure on how many times you've played for your national team, and then how many games you have played for the national team over the past 2-3 years / how many games that team played in total, but not sure what they use now.

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:17 am

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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:57 am

omegaprimevkm wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:01 am
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 am


I might have imagined this entirely but I think I saw somewhere the work permit hearing is on Thursday.

It's usually at least a week, but judging by the number of caps that the lad has and the fact he was in the WC squad, the likelihood of this being denied is very low. I believe there used to be an arbitrary measure on how many times you've played for your national team, and then how many games you have played for the national team over the past 2-3 years / how many games that team played in total, but not sure what they use now.
I think he's only played something like 6 times in the last 2 years. One appearance at the WC. From everything I've read, mostly from (presumably) brighter people than me, he should be granted a permit, but likely on appeal. Might take a bit this one.
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Post by bodacious benny » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:27 pm

Given that he's played (worked) in Germany for a number of years you'd hope that it wouldn't be too much of an issue.
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Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:10 pm

He's currently in the appeal stage hence why he has to go through the courts for it.

As Ben says though he has played in Germany for the last 3 years and being part of his countries WC squad as well as his 9.5m fee and I'd imagine 40-50k a week wages mean it should pass on appeal.
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Post by Remember Colo » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:11 pm

omegaprimevkm wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:01 am
Speedo wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 am


I might have imagined this entirely but I think I saw somewhere the work permit hearing is on Thursday.

It's usually at least a week, but judging by the number of caps that the lad has and the fact he was in the WC squad, the likelihood of this being denied is very low. I believe there used to be an arbitrary measure on how many times you've played for your national team, and then how many games you have played for the national team over the past 2-3 years / how many games that team played in total, but not sure what they use now.
I'd add, more broadly about work permits, the English FA rules also changed to require that the country they play for has a high enough world ranking (I forget now what that minimum rank is). Obviously for Japan that's not relevant because they're highly ranked and qualified for the WC, but I've had big concerns about what it means for keeping great players from mediocre national teams out of England. For example, a Canadian was just sold to Bayern Munich even though he had interest in playing in England - because he will never qualify for a work permit.

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Post by bodacious benny » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:21 pm

Is he (the Canadian guy) and good? I saw he got 2 goals and 2 assists in an MLS game the other day.
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