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Micky Quim wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:04 pm

Sir Bobby wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:01 pm

Really? We were comfortably the better team for 70 minutes. To say we "just about" earned a point is pretty nonsensical considering we had the ball in the net 3 times in the first half and they did nothing of note until they realised the game was slipping away from them.

We should have, as usual, sealed up the game with a second but our defensive tactics in the last 25 minutes came back, as usual, to haunt us.

Maybe the drink gave you football goggles

Could well be, but I thought we were as good as them today! Defo deserved our point through my black and white beer spectacles

Sir Bobby wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:06 pm

Micky Quim wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:04 pm

Maybe the drink gave you football goggles

Could well be, but I thought we were as good as them today! Defo deserved our point through my black and white beer spectacles

Yeah we deserved a point, as i'd said. But we can't have had much more than 33-35% possession and I can only remember us getting two efforts on target. Meanwhile Dubravka made numerous saves.

How anybody can define constant defending as dominating play just because we were leading baffles me.

5 points clear of the drop zone before the start of play, 8 clear at half-time and down to only 4 at the final whistle and possibly 3 tomorrow if Burnley win tomorrow.

We now need something from the Man U game because of this result as we can't hold on to a lead and would rather sit back on a one goal lead, something we are not very good at doing, rather than try and kill the game with a second goal.

Well that wasn't a disaster. Could have won it though. I stopped paying attention in the last 20 mins though. It got too boring.

Foster had a good game.

I got in from work and fell asleep by accident. Was actually quite looking forward to the game. How did we get on them? Skimming through this it looks a bit up and down. Rondon played well again. We could've used three points really but prob would've taken the point.

Would have took a point before kick off tbh...

Decent point but the failure to beat Fulham means this was two points lost, definitely. Still majorly pissed off at that.

that mertrovick lad scored for fulham

Get rid of benitez man.

The dim light that was once there that magnificence wasnt far away is slowly being extinguished with his constant negativity.

Sick of it.

And to suggest that he's the only reason we will stay up is ridiculous.

Luque wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:38 pm

Get rid of benitez man.

The dim light that was once there that magnificence wasnt far away is slowly being extinguished with his constant negativity.

Sick of it.

And to suggest that he's the only reason we will stay up is ridiculous.

I know, it annoys me too. I'm pretty sure the players have some influence on us staying up...

Hjl wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:58 pm

Luque wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:38 pm

Get rid of benitez man.

The dim light that was once there that magnificence wasnt far away is slowly being extinguished with his constant negativity.

Sick of it.

And to suggest that he's the only reason we will stay up is ridiculous.

I know, it annoys me too. I'm pretty sure the players have some influence on us staying up...

Whilst I don’t totally disagree with this - Rafa without the Ashley circus is a manager serving up negative & poor football week on week. That can’t be debated.

I think our issue is that the players are drilled to an inch of their life by Rafa & the coaching staff. They are so limited/restricted to the ‘system’ or tactics being deployed that they have regressed as footballers. They lack the individuality or ability to make effective decisions on the game.

Of course the balancing view is that these players aren’t good enough, or weren’t Rafa’s picks, etc. All most likely true - but we are suited to an away fixture where we can sit in, absorb & counter in designated patterns of play.

Where this ‘plan’ fails (home games where we face 14/15 teams who follow our away-day plan), the players simply are unable to provide any technical ability or speed of thought to change the game.

This is what happens with second rate players, who aren’t good enough. They need their hands held through games as they aren’t up to the required level. This in turn has made some of them worse

Donkey Toon wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:13 pm

Sir Bobby wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:06 pm

Could well be, but I thought we were as good as them today! Defo deserved our point through my black and white beer spectacles

Yeah we deserved a point, as i'd said. But we can't have had much more than 33-35% possession and I can only remember us getting two efforts on target. Meanwhile Dubravka made numerous saves.

How anybody can define constant defending as dominating play just because we were leading baffles me.

The Rafa effect.

This could be an important point.

Next month is going to be very tough - tgen it gets easier. We need to go for Cardiff at home - we need to win that otherwise I fear we could drop back to relegation zone by end of Jan.

I'm happy enough with the defence - we need attacking midfield options. - and another striker as Joselu is far too lame.

Rondon is good up front but we need more creativity behind him and an alternative

We're gonna get f***ing destroyed against Utd!

We are Utd. Jeeze.

We can probably score against them but I can see them scoring 3 easily so we have no chance.

Burnley winning just caps off a shitty weekend of results. With the run of games coming up it would be a brave man to bet against us being in the bottom three by the time we play Cardiff. What a massive game that is shaping up to be.

I know I've mentioned it but the failure to beat Fulham could be huge.

Burnley play Huddersfield away next followed by a home game against Fulham so every chance we'll be in the bottom 3 by the time we play Cardiff.

Well Bailly won’t be playing against us so if Phil Jones is back we might win

Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:07 pm

Well Bailly won’t be playing against us so if Phil Jones is back we might win

everything is going through Pogba for them, think if we can shut him down we might have a chance