January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

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Re: January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

Post by Slim999 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:05 am

CIH wrote:
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Yeah to be really clear I don't think he's horrific, he's just by far our defensive weak link in a back 4, and opposition sides know that. That for me isn't "the complete full back", and I think he's far better in his current position. He's definitely better than Danny Simpson. Don't get me started on Danny Simpson.

In terms of the big list for me Perch and Taylor weren't full backs, so Debuchy > Janmaat > Yedlin > Simpson for me. Not really buying this Janmaat is crap argument, he was at least as defensively solid as Yedlin and offered an awful lot going forward. He was excellent in his first season.
Just curious, what position do you think Taylor was best suited to? He was a bit of a jack of all trades I know, but I always saw him predominantly as a right back. Played a lot on the left in fairness. Perch we signed as a right back I think, but again was more of a utility player. His best position eventually became CDM though. Anita played a lot of games at right back as well in the last championship season, missed him out.
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Re: January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

Post by Slim999 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:06 am

I'm just posting this to get us to page 4.

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Re: January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

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Slim999 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:06 am
I'm just posting this to get us to page 4.

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Re: January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

Post by beatski » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:22 am

Remember Colo wrote:
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so like Yedlin then. Except Janmaat actually had end product (and a record amount of assists for a fullback for us), and didnt have the benefit of Benitez coaching him
And Janmaat had good strikers to direct crosses and passes to. And the benefit of not having Benitez requiring more conservative and rigid tactics. Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of Janmaat, so I have no qualms saying he was great, but I'm just not sure if it's an even playing field.
I'd say the opposite, Yedlin has the benefit of a manager that has been able to coach him in to a defender, and he clearly has license to attack under Benitez (moreso now we play a back three)

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Re: January 2019 signing #1 Antonio Barreca

Post by Remember Colo » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:02 pm

Beatski wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:22 am
Remember Colo wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:57 pm

And Janmaat had good strikers to direct crosses and passes to. And the benefit of not having Benitez requiring more conservative and rigid tactics. Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of Janmaat, so I have no qualms saying he was great, but I'm just not sure if it's an even playing field.
I'd say the opposite, Yedlin has the benefit of a manager that has been able to coach him in to a defender, and he clearly has license to attack under Benitez (moreso now we play a back three)
Oh, I absolutely agree that Benitez's coaching has improved him as a defender. I just didn't think comparing Janmaat's assist totals to Yedlin's is apples to apples. Though I also agree now that we play the back 3 he has more freedom to get forward (and is), and it's probably a role he's better suited for.

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