Yeah, I'd agree that in the air and balls from the opposite side of the pitch sometimes cause him trouble, as his covering for CBs on crosses and high balls can sometimes be tentative, but I've thought his defending of dribblers and play on the ground on his side of the pitch has actually been quite good this season.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
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Brings up an interesting question, at least for me. Last few years we've had quite a lot of turnover in rightbacks. Debuchy, Simpson, Janmaat, Ryan Taylor and Perch to an extent, and now Yedlin. Who do people think are the best? As mentioned above, Yedlin is definitely not a poor alternative to any of the others. I was never that bothered about losing Janmaat either, he was okay but not spectacular. I liked Debuchy but I don't think he ever really settled, and getting rid of him when we did was the right move. Simpson was limited but did his best, but he now has a premier league winners medal (how did that happen? ) so he wins! I miss Raylor's free kicks.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
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Debuchy probably the best followed by Yedlin? Simpson was solid enough for us. Janmaat was awful yet bizarrely popular. Taylor was poor at RB, had good delivery but wasn't good at all. Perch was committed but not great.CIH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:43 pmBrings up an interesting question, at least for me. Last few years we've had quite a lot of turnover in rightbacks. Debuchy, Simpson, Janmaat, Ryan Taylor and Perch to an extent, and now Yedlin. Who do people think are the best? As mentioned above, Yedlin is definitely not a poor alternative to any of the others. I was never that bothered about losing Janmaat either, he was okay but not spectacular. I liked Debuchy but I don't think he ever really settled, and getting rid of him when we did was the right move. Simpson was limited but did his best, but he now has a premier league winners medal (how did that happen? ) so he wins! I miss Raylor's free kicks.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
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Perch was crap when he signed for us, got 5 yellows in five games I think? But he evolved into PerchinoALF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:05 pmDebuchy probably the best followed by Yedlin? Simpson was solid enough for us. Janmaat was awful yet bizarrely popular. Taylor was poor at RB, had good delivery but wasn't good at all. Perch was committed but not great.CIH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:43 pm
Brings up an interesting question, at least for me. Last few years we've had quite a lot of turnover in rightbacks. Debuchy, Simpson, Janmaat, Ryan Taylor and Perch to an extent, and now Yedlin. Who do people think are the best? As mentioned above, Yedlin is definitely not a poor alternative to any of the others. I was never that bothered about losing Janmaat either, he was okay but not spectacular. I liked Debuchy but I don't think he ever really settled, and getting rid of him when we did was the right move. Simpson was limited but did his best, but he now has a premier league winners medal (how did that happen? ) so he wins! I miss Raylor's free kicks.
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Perch, the man who played better in every position than his own
He bossed it in midfield and at LB for a while
He bossed it in midfield and at LB for a while
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Was great as a defensive midfielder. Was terrible that time him and simpson were our CB's vs Norwich
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Yeah to be really clear I don't think he's horrific, he's just by far our defensive weak link in a back 4, and opposition sides know that. That for me isn't "the complete full back", and I think he's far better in his current position. He's definitely better than Danny Simpson. Don't get me started on Danny Simpson.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
In terms of the big list for me Perch and Taylor weren't full backs, so Debuchy > Janmaat > Yedlin > Simpson for me. Not really buying this Janmaat is crap argument, he was at least as defensively solid as Yedlin and offered an awful lot going forward. He was excellent in his first season.
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Janmaat was good yet bizarrely despised (symptomatic of that whole team, where the best players got the most crap). Especially because he got injured then broke his hand punching the ground because he was pissed off that he couldnt play, but at the same time he didnt care about playing? because why bother with logic? (and he didnt miss any games because of his hand, he missed them because of the aforementioned injury)ALF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:05 pmDebuchy probably the best followed by Yedlin? Simpson was solid enough for us. Janmaat was awful yet bizarrely popular. Taylor was poor at RB, had good delivery but wasn't good at all. Perch was committed but not great.CIH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:43 pm
Brings up an interesting question, at least for me. Last few years we've had quite a lot of turnover in rightbacks. Debuchy, Simpson, Janmaat, Ryan Taylor and Perch to an extent, and now Yedlin. Who do people think are the best? As mentioned above, Yedlin is definitely not a poor alternative to any of the others. I was never that bothered about losing Janmaat either, he was okay but not spectacular. I liked Debuchy but I don't think he ever really settled, and getting rid of him when we did was the right move. Simpson was limited but did his best, but he now has a premier league winners medal (how did that happen? ) so he wins! I miss Raylor's free kicks.
Like a much better version of Yedlin.
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Think Yedlin gets a really raw deal from some fans, a team in our current state are never going to have a very attacking fullback like him who has top defensive qualities too, if he had those he wouldn't be with us, he would be at a much better team imo.
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Just curious, what position do you think Taylor was best suited to? He was a bit of a jack of all trades I know, but I always saw him predominantly as a right back. Played a lot on the left in fairness. Perch we signed as a right back I think, but again was more of a utility player. His best position eventually became CDM though. Anita played a lot of games at right back as well in the last championship season, missed him out.Colly wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:59 amYeah to be really clear I don't think he's horrific, he's just by far our defensive weak link in a back 4, and opposition sides know that. That for me isn't "the complete full back", and I think he's far better in his current position. He's definitely better than Danny Simpson. Don't get me started on Danny Simpson.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
In terms of the big list for me Perch and Taylor weren't full backs, so Debuchy > Janmaat > Yedlin > Simpson for me. Not really buying this Janmaat is crap argument, he was at least as defensively solid as Yedlin and offered an awful lot going forward. He was excellent in his first season.
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I liked Janmaat but he has zero positional sense
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He was a fan favourite before the punching incident even though he was constantly getting caught out of position. Was a prime example of our fans not understanding what to expect from a full back.Beatski wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:36 amJanmaat was good yet bizarrely despised (symptomatic of that whole team, where the best players got the most crap). Especially because he got injured then broke his hand punching the ground because he was pissed off that he couldnt play, but at the same time he didnt care about playing? because why bother with logic? (and he didnt miss any games because of his hand, he missed them because of the aforementioned injury)
Like a much better version of Yedlin.
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He's a Premier League winner for a reasonColly wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:59 amYeah to be really clear I don't think he's horrific, he's just by far our defensive weak link in a back 4, and opposition sides know that. That for me isn't "the complete full back", and I think he's far better in his current position. He's definitely better than Danny Simpson. Don't get me started on Danny Simpson.Speedo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:38 pmI mean Yedlin is often vulnerable in the air, but I don't feel he's awful. I don't think he's a downgrade on say Janmaat or Danny Simpson, for example. And he adds a huge amount to us going forward, whether we're playing a 4 or a 3/5 at the back. For example - his driving run created the situation that lead to the penalty vs. City.
In terms of the big list for me Perch and Taylor weren't full backs, so Debuchy > Janmaat > Yedlin > Simpson for me. Not really buying this Janmaat is crap argument, he was at least as defensively solid as Yedlin and offered an awful lot going forward. He was excellent in his first season.
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I like Yedlin. I think he's our best wing back.
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ALF wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:51 pmHe's a Premier League winner for a reasonColly wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:59 am
Yeah to be really clear I don't think he's horrific, he's just by far our defensive weak link in a back 4, and opposition sides know that. That for me isn't "the complete full back", and I think he's far better in his current position. He's definitely better than Danny Simpson. Don't get me started on Danny Simpson.
In terms of the big list for me Perch and Taylor weren't full backs, so Debuchy > Janmaat > Yedlin > Simpson for me. Not really buying this Janmaat is crap argument, he was at least as defensively solid as Yedlin and offered an awful lot going forward. He was excellent in his first season.
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so like Yedlin then. Except Janmaat actually had end product (and a record amount of assists for a fullback for us), and didnt have the benefit of Benitez coaching him
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And Janmaat had good strikers to direct crosses and passes to. And the benefit of not having Benitez requiring more conservative and rigid tactics. Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of Janmaat, so I have no qualms saying he was great, but I'm just not sure if it's an even playing field.