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Plans for Next Season

Post by lassassinblanc » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:58 am

So now that we are safe for another year, may as well start thinking about plans for next season
As we are now safe may as well start thinking of next season and what we need to do.

No.1 Priority: Keep Rafa

I know there are a few out there who don't agree with this one, but I think our biggest hope of improving and moving forward is under Rafa, If Ashley has no intention of leaving before the summer and wants to try keep what little belief fans have in as an owner (I know it's not a lot ;) ) , then he needs to convince Rafa to sign a new contract.

No.2 Priority : Sign Rondon permanently

This one may be linked with Priority 1, If Rafa is to stay then I think his big want will be to keep Rondon or if he can't then bring in a suitable replacement. Again I know this may be another which a few on here may not agree him 100% but I think he's key to how we play.

No.3 Priority: Keep hold of Ayoze Perez or replace him with better

Once again one many won't agree with, but if there is any player who has improved under Rafa then Perez would be my pick, He has formed a brilliant partnership with Rondon and Almiron. I know he has his doubters but he is one of best players and I think Rafa will want to keep him unless we receive a massive offer for him and can find a suitable replacement (I hear Thorgan Hazard may be available ;) )


No.4 Priority: Improve Wing backs

Seems we seem settled in the 3-4-2-1 / 5-4-1 formation I think we need to look for an improvement on both sides.
Yedlin has his good moments but defensively he can be a liability and Manquillo was cheap option and has showed that at times though I still think he gets a bit of unwarranted stick. Ritchie is getting close to 30 and isn't actually a wing back but has fit in the place shows that left wing back is a one we really need to fill, Antonio Barreca may get his chance in the next 3 games but I doubt he'll be made permanent I think worryingly I haven't seen or heard of any left hand sided players linked with us.

No.5 Priority: Centre Midfield

Hayden will go in the summer as will Diame due to his age and contract situation, meaning at least another two centre mids are needed to replace them. Again I haven't seen any rumours that I'd believe are true, Patrick Erras from Nurnburg is the one I've heard more positive talk of, I have also heard of an interest in Iver Fossum from Hannover.

No.6 Priority: Wingers and Forward

I'd already alluded to this under the Perez priority and it probably should have been combined with that but with Kenedy obviously not been made permanent and going back to Chelsea with his tail between his legs after not living up to first 6 months with us. Almiron is obviously our number 1 left winger, that Atsu is our go to from the bench says a lot (even though again I think Atsu gets a lot of unwarranted criticism) we need some decent cover for both wings. I have heard Ristu Doan linked which I think would be good, as he can cover both sides and it be good for Yoshi to have a friend. I'm not 100% sure on his contract situation (I think he is out of contact but has an option to extend) but I'd be looking at Andres Pereira from United as he can cover a number of positions along the final third perhaps a loan with an option.

Talking of Yoshinoro Muto he'll need to kick on next season, If we can rid ourselves of Joselu then we'll need someone in to replace him again I have seen nothing concrete linked.
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:55 am

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I'd probably prioritise wingbacks over Perez ever so slightly. I think he's been great and clearly there's a risk of him going, but it's a bigger risk of we don't buy a specialised lwb and upgrade rwb I think.

As for the midfield, seeing a lot of stuff about Tom Cairney again. This time with Gayle + cash. Would be a good signing, but just feels like one of those several years long pursuits that we seem to do a lot. And never come to fruition.
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by lassassinblanc » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:22 pm

Aye probably correct on the wingbacks alright.

I think Tom Cairney would be a good signing alright, not playing him for half the season really cost Fulham I think, he was their heartbeat in the championship yet he featured very little this season after Jovanovic got the sack.

I alluded to Fossum who I think may be a target who'd be 22 years old and in as similar type of player to Hayden, I'd Hannover who will most likely be relegated from the Bundesliga will be looking to get back at least what they paid for him 3 years ago which was around 2million -Ish I seen him play during the nations league games and for U21 Norway team in the last 2 years and I think he'd really suit Rafa's midfield dynamic of a ball winning box to box .
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by Valentino's fast feet » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:32 pm

lassassinblanc wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:22 pm
Aye probably correct on the wingbacks alright.

I think Tom Cairney would be a good signing alright, not playing him for half the season really cost Fulham I think, he was their heartbeat in the championship yet he featured very little this season after Jovanovic got the sack.

I alluded to Fossum who I think may be a target who'd be 22 years old and in as similar type of player to Hayden, I'd Hannover who will most likely be relegated from the Bundesliga will be looking to get back at least what they paid for him 3 years ago which was around 2million -Ish I seen him play during the nations league games and for U21 Norway team in the last 2 years and I think he'd really suit Rafa's midfield dynamic of a ball winning box to box .
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I don't know much about Fossum, other than he tends to turn out quite good on FM. We definitely need at least two players in the middle of the park, probably more. Not sure if Shelvey will be sticking around long. Fossum + Cairney would be a great start.
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by beatski » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm

I think we should get Drinkwater on loan, perfect player for our system and perfect player for Ashley's budget

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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by lassassinblanc » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:00 pm

Beatski wrote:
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I think we should get Drinkwater on loan, perfect player for our system and perfect player for Ashley's budget
Umm he's on about 140k a week I think that's above Ashleys budget
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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:07 pm

He would be a good player to bring in, the obvious wage issues aside. I'm not sure Chelsea would sanction a loan though. Surely they'd rather get rid of him full stop?
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by beatski » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:47 pm

Yeah but I don't see anyone coming in with a reasonable bid or contract seeing as he hasn't played all season. Sarri told him at the start of the season that he's not in his plans, and he preferred to collect a paycheck, I presume he'd be happy to continue that over taking a paycut. I reckon/hope we could get away with only paying a percentage of his wages

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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by seaside nipper » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:50 am

Until the Rafa contract saga is resolved the player plans are irrelevant. I saw a ridiculous comment about Gattuso from Milan being touted as a Rafa replacement. Clearly pish conjecture but it grinds my gears that kind of idle speculative rumour. <yikes>
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Post by Valentino's fast feet » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:01 am

With Rafa's future still uncertain, there's going to be plenty of links to new managers next few weeks. Outgoing Lyon manager Bruno Genesio been heavily linked. Seen a new name today, Gennaro Gattuso. Reminded me of this gem.

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Post by bodacious benny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:27 am

Don’t particularly want him as a manger, but Gattuso v Charnley/Ashley could be hilarious <laugh>
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by Sanchino » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:47 am

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Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:55 am
Pretty much agree with all of that, although I'd probably prioritise wingbacks over Perez ever so slightly. I think he's been great and clearly there's a risk of him going, but it's a bigger risk of we don't buy a specialised lwb and upgrade rwb I think.

As for the midfield, seeing a lot of stuff about Tom Cairney again. This time with Gayle + cash. Would be a good signing, but just feels like one of those several years long pursuits that we seem to do a lot. And never come to fruition.
This. Priority has to be keeping Rafa but also we need quality signings, especially in those wing-back areas as they'll be key to how we play next season IF we want to implant the 3 at the back system as our regular and default formation but of course things change and if a new manager comes in he might have different ideas but with the current squad we have and the quality of our CB's the 3-5-2/3-4-3 system seems to fit us to a peach. It will definitely be a interesting summer with a few obvious outgoings such as Kenedy & Barreca and some potential ones but not certain in Joselu, Diame, Hayden, Ritchie, etc.

A ideal starting XI come the start of the new season (with Rafa staying)

Duba
Lejunee Lascelles Schar
NEW RWB* Longstaff NEW CM* NEW LWB*
Perez Rondon* Miggy

Subs : Woodman / Darlow*, Clark / Fernandez, Dummet / Yedelin, Shevely / Ki, Atsu / Murphy*, Gayle/ Muto*, Aarons / NEW RW/ Ritchie

*I wouldn't mind keeping Murphy when he comes back from loan and maybe selling Atsu ?
*Muto has to step it up next season as the ingredients are there and his playing style would suit our system he just needs more minutes and starts but with Gayle potentially coming back it'll be interesting to see what happens
*Aarons coming back too.. could he potentially make one of the wing-back positions his own?
*A new winger/striker wouldn't go a miss if we sell Ritchie / Joselu / Gayle

*Maybe send Woodman on loan to a Championship side and keep Darlow / sell Elliot or vice-versa.

*I would have said Jonjo or Ki but Rafa might want a more defensive option to compliment Longstaff and balance the midfield better. If Hayden and Diame both go we need 2 new defensive mids/ball-winning players. Longstaff to me is more of box-to-box who keeps things ticking he may not be spectacular but he does all the basics well enough, can win the ball back, pass it, good vision and has a eye for goal.
*Ideally a athletic attacking and rapid RWB would be ideal in our current system, you could even say someone like Yedelin but with better attacking prowess, crossing and less erratic / error-prone at the back. Manquillo can be a useful back-up if needed but you can see his limitations at times even though he works hard.

*Since Kenedy's gone of the boil and Barreca doesn't seem to be good enough / out of favor or both then Ritchie's had to make that position his own but as I've already mentioned in my previous posts on other threads I like Ritchie's commitment, work-rate, attitude, crossing ability is fantastic, good experience and is a specialist in dead ball situations but that's not his natural position and in this current set up I don't see a future for him as Perez and Miggy are ahead of him in the pack and Ritchie's never been blessed with pace, technique or dribbling ability. When we get a upgrade we'll still need a squad of players on the bench and providing competition so if Ritchie's willing to fight for his place and do that that's great but I have a feeling if the rumors are true that Bournemouth want him back with us giving them cash + him for Ryan Fraser I'll definitely take that deal. <ok>

*Ideally Rondon signs and we keep the three amigos intact as they've blossomed into a dangerous front three, the chemistry and gelling process has been helped by the fact they all speak Spanish so it's easier to communicate and understand each other's games. If we don't sign Rondon it would be disappointing as sure he isn't getting any younger and isn't a clinical / prolific finisher but for the £16 million price touted who else can we get for that price with his Premier League experience who knows what this leagues about and will guarantee you 10+ goals but not only that with a full pre-season ahead of him and adding more quality to the squad he could potentially score up to 15+ goals and everything else he brings to the teams in terms of his link-up / hold-up play, his strength, aerial ability and work-rate. He's always a handful and it'll be annoying seeing someone competing in and around us like West Ham / Leicester / Wolves sign him up for that price.

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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:06 am

Pretty much summed up my original post there Sanchino.

As you say in regards to Rondon, we ain't going to get another forward for 16.5m with his level of understanding of the league and his of team mates.

I still think if they don't go up via the playoffs West Brom will accept a bid of around 8/9m + Gayle
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Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:07 am

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:27 am
Don’t particularly want him as a manger, but Gattuso v Charnley/Ashley could be hilarious <laugh>
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Post by beatski » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:52 am

remember when we were linked with Tagliafico a couple of years back <wah>

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Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:55 am

Beatski wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:52 am
remember when we were linked with Tagliafico a couple of years back <wah>
I think we still are.
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Post by beatski » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:08 am

lassassinblanc wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:55 am
Beatski wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:52 am
remember when we were linked with Tagliafico a couple of years back <wah>
I think we still are.
No chance after his season at Ajax

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Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:35 am

Beatski wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:08 am
lassassinblanc wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:55 am


I think we still are.
No chance after his season at Ajax
I didn't say we had a chance ;)
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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by overseasTOON » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:21 am

I just had to Google Antonio Barreca.

Turns out he joined us on loan at the end of January.

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Re: Plans for Next Season

Post by Colly » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:57 am

overseasTOON wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:21 am
I just had to Google Antonio Barreca.

Turns out he joined us on loan at the end of January.
How could you forget about his glorious 5 minute appearance against Spurs? He's not even made the bench since...

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