MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Colly » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:47 pm

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Remember Colo » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:50 pm

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The wankfest is as bad as I expected, the fact they have won the title at the end of june has just been used as an example of them "breaking records". What next, the record for the only team to win the PL during a global pandemic.

Earlier sky had warnock explaining what pressing is and going like liverpool and klopp invented it and how they are the only team that can pull it off.

Oh and apparently TAA is the only player in the league that can play as a Rb, Rwb, or as a right winger.
To be fair, he is good, and I struggle to name others in the league who should play both (maybe Ryan Sessegnon, but he doesn't even play for Spurs and is on the left). Maybe one of the many expensive fullbacks at City, though none would be worth playing there compared to their wingers.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:16 pm

Remember Colo wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:50 pm
Don Sholeone wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:08 pm
The wankfest is as bad as I expected, the fact they have won the title at the end of june has just been used as an example of them "breaking records". What next, the record for the only team to win the PL during a global pandemic.

Earlier sky had warnock explaining what pressing is and going like liverpool and klopp invented it and how they are the only team that can pull it off.

Oh and apparently TAA is the only player in the league that can play as a Rb, Rwb, or as a right winger.
To be fair, he is good, and I struggle to name others in the league who should play both (maybe Ryan Sessegnon, but he doesn't even play for Spurs and is on the left). Maybe one of the many expensive fullbacks at City, though none would be worth playing there compared to their wingers.
In fairness, Matt Ritchie can play as a LB, LWB or L/RW.

I think most wing backs in the clubs that use them could play all 3 roles. Moussa Sissoko can even play all 3 roles.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by TJR » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:31 pm

ALF wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:16 pm
Remember Colo wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:50 pm

To be fair, he is good, and I struggle to name others in the league who should play both (maybe Ryan Sessegnon, but he doesn't even play for Spurs and is on the left). Maybe one of the many expensive fullbacks at City, though none would be worth playing there compared to their wingers.
In fairness, Matt Ritchie can play as a LB, LWB or L/RW.

I think most wing backs in the clubs that use them could play all 3 roles. Moussa Sissoko can even play all 3 roles.
Lazaro as well.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Remember Colo » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:50 pm

TJR wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:31 pm
ALF wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:16 pm


In fairness, Matt Ritchie can play as a LB, LWB or L/RW.

I think most wing backs in the clubs that use them could play all 3 roles. Moussa Sissoko can even play all 3 roles.
Lazaro as well.
Lazaro could, but I think being first choice is kinda critical to the original point being made (I do hope we see him get more minutes before the season is out). It also wasn't long ago that people strongly criticised Ritchie when played at LB.

As for Sissoko in the previous post, that a player could play all the roles, and should, are two different things.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Bodacious Benny » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:54 pm

Well lots of players could play both roles but not many can do it as well <laugh>
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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Colly » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:58 pm

I'm honestly not really sure what some of you were expecting by going on social media platforms with millions of users and seeing that some football fans aren't that clever.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Don Sholeone » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:33 pm

Defensively I'd put Wan Bissaka well ahead of Trent, hes just not as good attacking.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:49 pm

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Defensively I'd put Wan Bissaka well ahead of Trent, hes just not as good attacking.
Yeah he's miles better defensively, Trent is not a good defender at all.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Remember Colo » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:00 pm

ALF wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:49 pm
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:33 pm
Defensively I'd put Wan Bissaka well ahead of Trent, hes just not as good attacking.
Yeah he's miles better defensively, Trent is not a good defender at all.
Doesn't really need to be for them either. Best defence is a good offence tends to apply to them. Especially once they finally got a good keeper and CB.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:41 pm

Remember Colo wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:00 pm
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Yeah he's miles better defensively, Trent is not a good defender at all.
Doesn't really need to be for them either. Best defence is a good offence tends to apply to them. Especially once they finally got a good keeper and CB.
Agree with that. But it could mean AWB or James get the England RB spot ahead of him.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by jpg » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:41 pm

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So it begins. Obviously its fully deserved but this is going to be framed like its the greatest ever title win, Sky Sports already have a conference call full of ex liverpool.
The ‘30 years of hurt’ line is a bit rich for a club who’ve won almost 20 trophies in that time alone.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Beatski » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:10 pm

jpg wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:41 pm
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Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:08 pm
So it begins. Obviously its fully deserved but this is going to be framed like its the greatest ever title win, Sky Sports already have a conference call full of ex liverpool.
The ‘30 years of hurt’ line is a bit rich for a club who’ve won almost 20 trophies in that time alone.
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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Bodacious Benny » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:46 am

ALF wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:41 pm
Remember Colo wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:00 pm

Doesn't really need to be for them either. Best defence is a good offence tends to apply to them. Especially once they finally got a good keeper and CB.
Agree with that. But it could mean AWB or James get the England RB spot ahead of him.
Reece James has played about 5 games for Chelsea and isn’t even their number 1 RB.

TAA is part of the best defence in the league so can’t be that bad. I’d take him over AWB any day of the week.
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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by krully » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:59 am

Beatski wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:10 pm
jpg wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:41 pm

The ‘30 years of hurt’ line is a bit rich for a club who’ve won almost 20 trophies in that time alone.
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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:40 am

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Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:46 am
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Agree with that. But it could mean AWB or James get the England RB spot ahead of him.
Reece James has played about 5 games for Chelsea and isn’t even their number 1 RB.

TAA is part of the best defence in the league so can’t be that bad. I’d take him over AWB any day of the week.
He's played nearly 30 times for them this season including 17 starts at RB. He's definitely well on the way to becoming their first choice RB at only 20 years old.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by Bodacious Benny » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:30 am

ALF wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:40 am
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Reece James has played about 5 games for Chelsea and isn’t even their number 1 RB.

TAA is part of the best defence in the league so can’t be that bad. I’d take him over AWB any day of the week.
He's played nearly 30 times for them this season including 17 starts at RB. He's definitely well on the way to becoming their first choice RB at only 20 years old.
Fair enough he’s played more than I thought - but it’s not even remotely close between him and TAA at the moment.
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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:34 am

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Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:30 am
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He's played nearly 30 times for them this season including 17 starts at RB. He's definitely well on the way to becoming their first choice RB at only 20 years old.
Fair enough he’s played more than I thought - but it’s not even remotely close between him and TAA at the moment.
I don't think it's close right now but I think Reece James has more potential than TAA at the moment. He's a more rounded player even if he isn't anywhere near as effective going forward as TAA right now.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by CIH » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:51 am

ALF wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:34 am
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:30 am


Fair enough he’s played more than I thought - but it’s not even remotely close between him and TAA at the moment.
I don't think it's close right now but I think Reece James has more potential than TAA at the moment. He's a more rounded player even if he isn't anywhere near as effective going forward as TAA right now.
TAA clearly has the potential versatility to play elsewhere on the pitch. Whether it be further forward or in the centre of midfield. I think if Liverpool had more options at RB we may have already seen a transition. As it stands currently though, he's definitely the first choice RB for England for me. It's a good problem to have though with James and Wan-Bisakka in the wings. Not to mention Trippier and Walker knocking about.

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Re: MIDWEEK FOOTBALL - 23/25 JUNE 2020

Post by ALF » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 am

CIH wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:51 am
ALF wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:34 am


I don't think it's close right now but I think Reece James has more potential than TAA at the moment. He's a more rounded player even if he isn't anywhere near as effective going forward as TAA right now.
TAA clearly has the potential versatility to play elsewhere on the pitch. Whether it be further forward or in the centre of midfield. I think if Liverpool had more options at RB we may have already seen a transition. As it stands currently though, he's definitely the first choice RB for England for me. It's a good problem to have though with James and Wan-Bisakka in the wings. Not to mention Trippier and Walker knocking about.
I think TAA has a clear weakness defensively. He gets away with it for Liverpool but his positioning is horrendous and he's struggled for England a couple of times. It wouldn't surprise me if he moves further forward as technically he could play anywhere. Although the question is whether he'd find the space further up the field. As things stand the defenders and midfielders are largely occupied with the Liverpool attacking players so he gets more space to deliver his crosses and play his passes. If he's playing CM or RW then he'd likely be marked a lot tighter.

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