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The F1 Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:10 pm
by overseasTOON
Seeing that Bernie Ecclestone is now pressing for Melbourne to be dropped if they won't change the race time to suit the European audience (cost of installing floodlights etc is prohibitive) and looks as if it will be dropped from the F1 calendar.

It seems to me that there are too many tracks in F1 where the excitement of racing is eradicated because the tracks are so damn dull or made too difficult to race.

Drop:

Bahrain: Truly a sleep inducing race that invariably results in a procession. I can't recall it ever being exciting.

European (Valencia): Drop this track. It's simply awful. Rotate the tracks on an annual basis. They have Paul Ricard (France), Osterreichring (Austria), San Marino etc that could host this.

Korean: It's not really managed to give itself a good reputation since it began and apart from rain; offers no real challenge or excitement.

Abu Dhabi: Woohoo! Now I can watch a F1 car drive in daylight, twilight and night all in one race. That's about all this race offers in terms of excitement.


Keep:

Australian: As a usual season opener this race always delivers a surprise, excitement as well as it's fair share of driver error. Maybe it's just because it's a season opener and we've all waited for it but I'd like to retain Melbourne and will wake up early to watch it.

Malaysian: It's a good track with some fast straights, tough series of corners and the humidity really does effect the drivers.

Chinese: I'd keep this race as I think it's improving overall. That first 'corner sequence' is bizarre but I love it.

Spanish: Usually the first race back in Europe and it's normally good. Nice track that encourages some audacious moves.

Monaco: The crown jewel can be dull as dishwater but there is something about that track. I've driven the track in a Citreon C1, flat out (well... as fast as speed limits would allow) and that road in a normal car is tight. Kudos to the drivers for nailing a corner at 80 when I balked at 25!

Canadian: A race track that I've grown to love. It rewards the driver who likes to overtake.

British: Home advantage. It stays!

German: Maybe not the best track in Germany but it's still a tough race and has been involved in it's fair share of excitement.

Hungarian: Tough track to get right but has the ability to provide a classic.

Belgian: This to me is the crown jewel of all tracks. Undulations, steep inclines, variable weather and Eau Rouge.

Italian: Fastest track on the calendar. Certain bends are unrelenting to errors but rewards you if you drive in an attacking style.

Singapore: Is it just me who likes the track? Sure, I've rubbished Abu Dhabi for it's 'USP' of racing in 3 stages of light but Singapore is a far more challenging track in my opinion where mistakes are punished.

Japanese: How I love this race track. It's madness and brilliance in one place and the Japanese should be proud of this place.

Brazilian: So typically the final battle ground and a great track to win a title or lose it.


New:

Indian: Still young days but from what I saw, it has a lot of potential. Let's see next year?

American (Texas): I haven't the foggiest.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:12 pm
by beardface
<wenger> Bernie.

The Melbourne track is one of my favourites, and to get rid of it from the F1 calender just because people in Europe have to wake up to see it is ridiculous.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:17 pm
by Lewis Hamilton The F1 Legend
Drop

Bahrain
Valencia
Hockenheim - Keep Nurburgring

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:34 pm
by Alfie
Quite liked Turkey, cracking race there 2 years ago. Unfortunately locals are priced out of going. Was a really good circuit for the spectators because you could see most of the track from wherever you sat.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:41 pm
by overseasTOON
Turkey wasn't too bad a track but was difficult to overtake. The race you were mentioning I'm guessing was with Button in the Brawn and Vettel made a mistake half way through the first lap?

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:51 pm
by Mifune
I liked Turkey very much. You had some cracking Mclaren battles there in the last two years.

If I were dropping tracks they would be:
- Bahrain
- Valencia
- Barcelona
- And then maybe Korea and Abu Dhabi.

Then I would replace them with:
-Turkey
- Paul Ricard
- Mexico
- New York.

I would also like this track to be on the F1 calendar.
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Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by overseasTOON
Mifune wrote:I liked Turkey very much. You had some cracking Mclaren battles there in the last two years.

If I were dropping tracks they would be:
- Bahrain
- Valencia
- Barcelona
- And then maybe Korea and Abu Dhabi.

Then I would replace them with:
-Turkey
- Paul Ricard
- Mexico
- New York.

I would also like this track to be on the F1 calendar.
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That looks awesome.

We'd have to resolve the Falklands conflict first though as the Argies wouldn't allow any British teams into the country.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:57 pm
by KingoStarr
I went to the Hungarian F1 last season and the track is so challenging and the fans there are immense !

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:02 pm
by TheLittleGeordie
I agree with OTs list pretty much. Most of all I'd like them to drop Valencia so we could maybe have both German ones back in the same year. Also I kind of miss the Austrian one, the A1 ring or something I can't remember it very well.
Wish we still had San Marino most of all though

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:07 pm
by overseasTOON
KingoStarr wrote:I went to the Hungarian F1 last season and the track is so challenging and the fans there are immense !
It's a track I've wanted to visit for ages. We've employed a few Hungarian au pairs who have been and they love it there as it's a real party atmosphere.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:12 pm
by KingoStarr
overseasTOON wrote:
KingoStarr wrote:I went to the Hungarian F1 last season and the track is so challenging and the fans there are immense !
It's a track I've wanted to visit for ages. We've employed a few Hungarian au pairs who have been and they love it there as it's a real party atmosphere.
It is amazing, all the Eastern Europeans go there and they're some of the best people you'll ever meet, they're crazy but up for a complete laugh and enjoy their racing!

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:37 pm
by Paco
Definately drop the ones you said, so said that Spain get two average/s*** one and Germany has to alternate between two much better tracks

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:39 pm
by tomtom94
Get rid of Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Valencia, Singapore and Korea.
Keep all the good European ones, bring back Magny-Cours and, if possible, der Nordschleife.
I don't think I'll ever be convinced by any of Tilke's newer tracks sadly.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:49 pm
by Le Quiff
Havent watched F1 much since Button won the title with Brawn, why don't they use the Nurburgring? I know its a lengthy track and lap times would be long, but just shorten the amount of laps in the race, simples.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:52 pm
by tomtom94
Le Quiff wrote:Havent watched F1 much since Button won the title with Brawn, why don't they use the Nurburgring? I know its a lengthy track and lap times would be long, but just shorten the amount of laps in the race, simples.
One reason that was cited in a book I read is that it would simply be too complex and dangerous to marshal.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:53 pm
by Le Quiff
tomtom94 wrote:
Le Quiff wrote:Havent watched F1 much since Button won the title with Brawn, why don't they use the Nurburgring? I know its a lengthy track and lap times would be long, but just shorten the amount of laps in the race, simples.
One reason that was cited in a book I read is that it would simply be too complex and dangerous to marshal.
Ah i see, suppose it makes sense, but would be awesome to watch.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:53 pm
by Le Quiff
Also, i will be watching it all this year with it being on Sky and them having a full channel dedicated to it, looking forward to it <diva>

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:54 am
by Alfie
overseasTOON wrote:Turkey wasn't too bad a track but was difficult to overtake. The race you were mentioning I'm guessing was with Button in the Brawn and Vettel made a mistake half way through the first lap?
The one I was thinking of was when Vettel & Webber hit each other & handed the race to Hamilton.

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:35 pm
by Alfie
Also Schumy 125/1 to win the title, worth a cheeky tenner? Brundle reckons the Mercs are quick this year, maybe Ross Brawn can pull another Jenson title winning season?

Re: F1 Tracks - Drop/Keep/Time Will Tell

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:08 pm
by tomtom94
Alfie wrote:Also Schumy 125/1 to win the title, worth a cheeky tenner? Brundle reckons the Mercs are quick this year, maybe Ross Brawn can pull another Jenson title winning season?
Easily worth it at those odds I'd say. Not necessarily going to happen mind.