Well that's my theory butchered. I like the stardust thought thoMifune wrote:Well when the universe began there was only hydrogen, helium and lithium. Other heavier elements such as carbon and oxygen are made by nuclear fusion in stars, and then the even heavier elements such as gold are made in supernovas caused by stars dying.Sir Bobby wrote:
Am I wrong
And, Skalpal, the memory thing is more hope than actual belief
Techinically we are all made out of stardust.
Sir Bobby wrote:Well that's my theory butchered. I like the stardust thought thoMifune wrote:
Well when the universe began there was only hydrogen, helium and lithium. Other heavier elements such as carbon and oxygen are made by nuclear fusion in stars, and then the even heavier elements such as gold are made in supernovas caused by stars dying.
Techinically we are all made out of stardust.
ie. Ultimately useless once the hardware doesn't work anymoreMifune wrote:Sir Bobby wrote:
Well that's my theory butchered. I like the stardust thought tho
Although the good news for you is that if we did have some sort of soul then it probably would not have any kind of mass, it would sort of be like the software to our bodies hardware.
.Probablyskalpel wrote:ie. Ultimately useless once the hardware doesn't work anymoreMifune wrote:
Although the good news for you is that if we did have some sort of soul then it probably would not have any kind of mass, it would sort of be like the software to our bodies hardware.
.Mifune wrote:Probablyskalpel wrote:
ie. Ultimately useless once the hardware doesn't work anymore
In all honesty I find it hard to believe anything other than that we are just irrelevant specks crawling about on a slightly larger speck for a split second of time and then once we die and our meaningless life is over, then that is it forever.
Agreed. But we're specs who have the ability to interpret chemical signals in many different emotional ways, which can make our meaningless existence enjoyable.Mifune wrote:Probablyskalpel wrote:
ie. Ultimately useless once the hardware doesn't work anymore
In all honesty I find it hard to believe anything other than that we are just irrelevant specks crawling about on a slightly larger speck for a split second of time and then once we die and our meaningless life is over, then that is it forever.
Of course. But I'm separating hope and belief here, I believe in what I know; but I'd obviously hope to live an afterlife for eternity as myself in a glorious utopia filled with everything I've ever wanted. Only a masochist wouldn't wish that for themselves, it doesn't mean I believe it will happen though.Livin' Davide Loca wrote:Well this is all pretty depressing. Does nobody even hope there's something else after this life?
I'd like there to be some form of reincarnation. I'm not that bothered about 'heaven' in the traditional sense because it sounds pretty dull but I'd like to continue living in this world and see how civilisation and the human race progresses over time.Livin' Davide Loca wrote:Well this is all pretty depressing. Does nobody even hope there's something else after this life?
True.skalpel wrote:Agreed. But we're specs who have the ability to interpret chemical signals in many different emotional ways, which can make our meaningless existence enjoyable.Mifune wrote:
Probably
In all honesty I find it hard to believe anything other than that we are just irrelevant specks crawling about on a slightly larger speck for a split second of time and then once we die and our meaningless life is over, then that is it forever.
Buddhism has its pros and cons really but for me the best thing about Buddhism, after its immediate rejection of gods, is how flexible it is to the individual. There's no piety or pedantic sanctimoniousness directed at its followers; a big factor of Buddhism is that you take it for your own journey and exploration of Siddhartha's understandings, as opposed to subscribing yourself to some elitist tribe with a ridiculous code of laws. Of course, you'll still find the odd moron with a complete lack of comprehension approaching it from an Abrahamic perspective and probably shitting in everybody's cereal in the process, but that's humans for youThe Secret Ingredient wrote:If I believed there was I'd be into Buddhism* as I believe it's a good philosophy (NOT A f***ing RELIGION) to lead your life,as I don't believe I'll stay a beer swilling,anti social,grumpy old f***er till I die.
*this can cause an argument in itself as some Buddhists believe in it whilst others Don't but believe in rebirth.
.Exactly the Buddha teachings are a guideline to a righteous path in your life not a stipulation,whether you follow them to the word is down to the person.Buddhism has always appealed to me more than religion ever could.skalpel wrote:Buddhism has its pros and cons really but for me the best thing about Buddhism, after its immediate rejection of gods, is how flexible it is to the individual. There's no piety or pedantic sanctimoniousness directed at its followers; a big factor of Buddhism is that you take it for your own journey and exploration of Siddhartha's understandings, as opposed to subscribing yourself to some elitist tribe with a ridiculous code of laws. Of course, you'll still find the odd moron with a complete lack of comprehension approaching it from an Abrahamic perspective and probably shitting in everybody's cereal in the process, but that's humans for youThe Secret Ingredient wrote:If I believed there was I'd be into Buddhism* as I believe it's a good philosophy (NOT A f***ing RELIGION) to lead your life,as I don't believe I'll stay a beer swilling,anti social,grumpy old f***er till I die.
*this can cause an argument in itself as some Buddhists believe in it whilst others Don't but believe in rebirth.
What constitutes "your matter" though? Every cell in your body is replaced every 11 months or so, water, which forms over 70% of our bodies, is replaced completely in just over a fortnight. There are probably thousands of living animals with bits of you in them already living, and as you eat meat (presumably) and plants, then you've consumed thousands of living organisms already, not to mention the millions of bacteria in your body.Sir Bobby wrote:I personally believe in a form of reincarnation. How I see it is that there has always been the amount of elements in the universe as there are now, so that means nothing leaves or enters the universe. Thus if I die eventually my matter will eventually make up another living thing.
I used to kind of believe in a soul particle, although I thought of it more as a spiritual and physical component of who I am. I always felt there must be a spiritual part that allows living things to think and learn and feel emotions. As far as I know things like curtains and biscuits are incapable of conscious thought and don't have feelings, so there must be some spiritual part of living things that separates them from inanimate objects, a corpse after all is made of the same stuff physically as a human. This was my only real basis for there being an afterlife of some sort, my belief in this was shaken somewhat when I was put under sedation and wasn't capable of any thought at all while my body was unconscious, it was as if I'd blinked and several hours and an operation had passed and I'd been whisked into another room.Sir Bobby wrote:I think there's the plausibility of a 'soul' particle in every living thing which carries around certain memories and whatnot which transfers when it eventually becomes part of another living thing.
