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Gender Inequality: Objectification, Discrimination, Money & More

Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:55 pm

The ludicrous sexism in football. 101 Great Goals just posted an article with the title 'Wow. What a Woman!' and an article heading 'There is an attractive brunette model in Argentina who does keepy-uppies on the street in high heels'

Why does it take 3 adjectives before we find out what she does? If it was a bloke it would've just said 'Tekkers' or something. This is the problem with #LADbanterculture. It would be quite funny if it wasn't so misogynistic.
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Post by Cheik the room » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:24 pm

Speedo wrote:The ludicrous sexism in football. 101 Great Goals just posted an article with the title 'Wow. What a Woman!' and an article heading 'There is an attractive brunette model in Argentina who does keepy-uppies on the street in high heels'

Why does it take 3 adjectives before we find out what she does? If it was a bloke it would've just said 'Tekkers' or something. This is the problem with #LADbanterculture. It would be quite funny if it wasn't so misogynistic.
Facts are, a woman who can play sports and is hot is rare. Not sexist it just is. That is like a perfect woman <awe>
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Post by Sir Bobby » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:25 pm

Speedo wrote:The ludicrous sexism in football. 101 Great Goals just posted an article with the title 'Wow. What a Woman!' and an article heading 'There is an attractive brunette model in Argentina who does keepy-uppies on the street in high heels'

Why does it take 3 adjectives before we find out what she does? If it was a bloke it would've just said 'Tekkers' or something. This is the problem with #LADbanterculture. It would be quite funny if it wasn't so misogynistic.
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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:53 pm

<neg> You're missing the point. It's not that she isn't fit, it's the fact that they plaster it over the front like

LOOK SHE'S GOT t***and she's really good at football
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Post by Micky Quim » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:31 pm

Speedo wrote:<neg> You're missing the point. It's not that she isn't fit, it's the fact that they plaster it over the front like

LOOK SHE'S GOT t***and she's really good at football
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Post by Cheik the room » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:49 pm

Speedo wrote:<neg> You're missing the point. It's not that she isn't fit, it's the fact that they plaster it over the front like

LOOK SHE'S GOT t***and she's really good at football
But that is surprising. The fact she's hot is the REASON it's there, there are tonnes of chavvy slightly overweight women who love footy. Yet a hot football playing woman IS newsworty as it is such a rare thing...how many do you know? <roll>
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Post by Jaiston » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:11 pm

Women look at sportsmen sexually, so what is wrong with men doing the same to sportswomen?

I'm sure if a woman wrote a similar article on Cronaldo or someone, no one would batter an eye lid.

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Post by Wedge Head Tiote » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:11 pm

I understand the point and obviously in a perfect world it wouldn't be newsworthy that a woman can do kick-ups. However it is a rarity as CTR says to see a good looking woman doing kick-ups, especially in high heels. It's similar to this video being more interesting than a thin guy doing kick-ups. There's nothing that says fat guys/woman can't do kick-ups it's just more unusual.

Ps. Yes I do know that analogy could come off as quite bad as it might be seen as saying woman have physical deficiencies but it wasn't meant in that way.

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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:50 pm

It's different to being attracted to sportspeople - you expect that, they're mostly amazing physical specimens. But the fact it had to be fit model before the sporting achievement is bad.
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Post by PTAO? » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:34 pm

Speedo wrote:It's different to being attracted to sportspeople - you expect that, they're mostly amazing physical specimens. But the fact it had to be fit model before the sporting achievement is bad.
That is basic sentence structure. In English we go Subject, Verb, Object

Subject (Who) = fit woman - Verb (What) = doing kick ups - Object = with a football

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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:38 pm

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Speedo wrote:It's different to being attracted to sportspeople - you expect that, they're mostly amazing physical specimens. But the fact it had to be fit model before the sporting achievement is bad.
That is basic sentence structure. In English we go Subject, Verb, Object

Subject (Who) = fit woman - Verb (What) = doing kick ups - Object = with a football
It's a headline, it doesn't have to follow normal sentence structure. They rarely do on 101GG or anywhere else. Anyway the main thing I was objecting to was that she was labelled as fit etc straight away. Why couldn't it have been 'Argentinian TV Presenter does keepy-ups'? Why is it always about how fit someone is?
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Post by PTAO? » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:40 pm

Speedo wrote:
Tirer le Ryan Oison Uneski wrote:
That is basic sentence structure. In English we go Subject, Verb, Object

Subject (Who) = fit woman - Verb (What) = doing kick ups - Object = with a football
It's a headline, it doesn't have to follow normal sentence structure. They rarely do on 101GG or anywhere else. Anyway the main thing I was objecting to was that she was labelled as fit etc straight away. Why couldn't it have been 'Argentinian TV Presenter does keepy-ups'? Why is it always about how fit someone is?
Because if it's not, it's just another person doing kick ups, which no-one is interested in. It doesn't make is sexist, it's just the thing that makes it unique is highlighted.

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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm

Tirer le Ryan Oison Uneski wrote:
Speedo wrote:
It's a headline, it doesn't have to follow normal sentence structure. They rarely do on 101GG or anywhere else. Anyway the main thing I was objecting to was that she was labelled as fit etc straight away. Why couldn't it have been 'Argentinian TV Presenter does keepy-ups'? Why is it always about how fit someone is?
Because if it's not, it's just another person doing kick ups, which no-one is interested in. It doesn't make is sexist, it's just the thing that makes it unique is highlighted.
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
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Post by PTAO? » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:49 pm

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Tirer le Ryan Oison Uneski wrote:
Because if it's not, it's just another person doing kick ups, which no-one is interested in. It doesn't make is sexist, it's just the thing that makes it unique is highlighted.
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
I haven't seen it, but is she better than Mr. Woo or others?
From your description, the fact that she is doing it in high heels suggests that this reaction is exactly what she is going for.

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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:54 pm

Tirer le Ryan Oison Uneski wrote:
Speedo wrote:
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
I haven't seen it, but is she better than Mr. Woo or others?
From your description, the fact that she is doing it in high heels suggests that this reaction is exactly what she is going for.
Well obviously people try to profit out of sexism, including some women, but that doesn't make it ok. Actually if they'd advertised as it as 'Woman does keepy-ups in high heels' that would not be sexist.

I have no idea who Mr. Woo is, I didn't actually watch the video.
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Post by Mifune » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:55 pm

Speedo wrote:
Tirer le Ryan Oison Uneski wrote:
Because if it's not, it's just another person doing kick ups, which no-one is interested in. It doesn't make is sexist, it's just the thing that makes it unique is highlighted.
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
Because it is a like a bear riding a unicycle, something that is very uncommon and not seen often. Not many women like sports and even less of them actually play sports and even less of them are good at sports. Likewise most women are not fit, they are average or ugly (that is statistics not me being a dick). So a fit women who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle.

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Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
Because it is a like a bear riding a unicycle, something that is very uncommon and not seen often. Not many women like sports and even less of them actually play sports and even less of them are good at sports. Likewise most women are not fit, they are average or ugly (that is statistics not me being a d***). So a fit women who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle.
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Post by Mifune » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:03 pm

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Because it is a like a bear riding a unicycle, something that is very uncommon and not seen often. Not many women like sports and even less of them actually play sports and even less of them are good at sports. Likewise most women are not fit, they are average or ugly (that is statistics not me being a d***). So a fit women who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle.
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Post by Jaiston » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:06 pm

Mifune wrote:
Speedo wrote:
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
Because it is a like a bear riding a unicycle, something that is very uncommon and not seen often. Not many women like sports and even less of them actually play sports and even less of them are good at sports. Likewise most women are not fit, they are average or ugly (that is statistics not me being a d***). So a fit women who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle.

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Post by Speedo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:08 pm

Mifune wrote:
Speedo wrote:
Is it healthy that the thing that makes it unique is her physical attractiveness? Rather than being especially good at it? I just think if you want to look at women who are fit, go and have a w***. Why do we need to sex up everything?
Because it is a like a bear riding a unicycle, something that is very uncommon and not seen often. Not many women like sports and even less of them actually play sports and even less of them are good at sports. Likewise most women are not fit, they are average or ugly (that is statistics not me being a dick). So a fit women who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle.
1. Women who are good at sport are much more likely to be fit
2. Saying 'not many women like sports' is just untrue. Maybe fewer than men, but 'not many' is ****.
3. Most men are average/ugly so why don't we make a thing of that all the time?
4. 'A fit woman who is good at sports is a bear riding a unicycle' is one of the most sexist things I have ever heard. I respect your opinion on most things, but that is an appalling thing to say.
5. The remarkable thing is that she is doing it in high heels! Not that she is fit, or a woman.
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