I'll accept any science that can be proved and not hidden from us. The stuff I'm questioning has not real physical proof.Donkey Toon wrote:Reading back through this I've had to keep pinching myself to make sure i'm not dreaming.
Leaving the science aside, because let's face it ghostrider is adamant that he is not going to accept it
All scientists are many in different fields. Some do fantastic work and some are merely theorists. Others are merely fronts for the benefit of us.Donkey Toon wrote: my question would be; what would be the purpose in all the scientists, world leaders, pilots, sailors, astronauts, round the world yachtsmen and countless other ordinary travellers, conspiring to create this great spherical world myth?
World leaders are merely puppets. Actors like Ronald Reagan and potentials like Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. Seriously?
Pilots just follow orders. They fly on instruments by a flight plan. Sailors just follow orders and follow a set out plan.They don't have to be in on anything.
Astronauts. There's no such thing as an astronaut as far as I'm concerned. Aquanaut maybe. Actornauts, definitely. Round the world yachtsmen use a compass. East and west would be going around in a circle.
It's a big world and very few people, if any actually know the truth of what it is. There's plenty that know what it isn't - and that's a spinning globe.
Most probably many genuine scientists know it's not a globe but what do you do? Do you shout it from the roof tops and lose your job and be called a nut case conspiracy theorist or a tin foil hat? Nah, I'm sure 99% would ratehr earn good money and who can blame them.
Very few would have to lie about personal experiences. Some could be doing it because they're told it's for good reason. Who really knows.Donkey Toon wrote: There is nothing to gain from it, but it would be the conspiracy of all conspiracies to manufacture and maintain, requiring countless millions of people to agree to lie about personal experiences
Every day you're being told white lies and big lies. Actors are paid good money in order to make you believe a scene is real. most people aren't stupid but they will cry over an acted scene. they will spend hours talking about a plot in a film the next day.
Do you not believe a bunch of actors in suits can make kids and adults believe they're taking a crap in a special space station toilet or brushing their teeth or eating a burrito, etc, etc?
Simon Helberg from the big bang, playing Howard Wallowitz was floating about in his space station. Did he go up there in a rocket or was there a place he could go to shoot the scenes?
We can easily be duped into believing anything if the right person is put in front of us to push it.
How many people do you know that use a globe map to travel anywhere?Donkey Toon wrote: to fake maps of the world, to conspire to organise and maintain a fake international transportation system which would actually incur a huge financial burden (because for example the USA could not export both east and west from its borders and expect them to reach the same country, UK exports would have to go east or west depending on where the earth ends) and yet despite living on this planet for nearly 50 years i've never witnessed or heard of a single fact or report to suggest that the world is not as described and as far as i'm aware those who dispute it are so rare as to be virtually non-existent.
I'm not trying to sound clever. I''m merely giving my thoughts out for people to ponder and debate if they so wish. I'm simply saying, question stuff.Donkey Toon wrote:Ghostrider you are trying to sound clever by spouting pseudo-scientific word salad whilst at the same time showing a cronic lack of logic and common sense.
What I think, I think from my own point of view. I do not expect anyone to follow it in any way shape or form. That's entirely down to each individual as to whether they can see valid points or not, or whether they feel that I'm a stark raving nut case. I'm not in control of others thoughts.
No shrink needed for simply having thoughts on a forum, I don't think.Donkey Toon wrote: I'm 99% certain you are a troll, but in case you aren't I suggest seeing a shrink.