Saints Sack Manager

[bodacious benny]

Saints stay up and Stoke go down, imagine the Stoke fans

He's largely done not too bad in his managerial career up until the last 18 months at Stoke.

[jimileysbaldhead]

Saints stay up and Stoke go down, imagine the Stoke fans

He's largely done not too bad in his managerial career up until the last 18 months at Stoke.

I hope one of them go down to keep the equilibrium of red and white stripes in the Championship.....

[Tsi]

Telegraph - 24 jobs at 10 Premier League clubs have gone to the same 6 failing managers

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Blackburn: Allardyce, Hughes

Crystal Palace: Allardyce, Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

Everton: Allardyce, Moyes

Fulham: Hodgson, Hughes
Newcastle United: Allardyce, Pardew

Southampton: Hughes, Pardew

Stoke: Hughes, Pulis

Sunderland: Allardyce, Moyes

West Brom: Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

West Ham: Allardyce, Moyes, Pardew

[Double Agent Bruce a.k.a DAB]

Or Stoke and Southampton both relegated. And Hughes to became a pioneer. To get relegated with two teams in one season.

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Telegraph - 24 jobs at 10 Premier League clubs have gone to the same 6 failing managers

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Blackburn: Allardyce, Hughes

Crystal Palace: Allardyce, Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

Everton: Allardyce, Moyes

Fulham: Hodgson, Hughes
Newcastle United: Allardyce, Pardew

Southampton: Hughes, Pardew

Stoke: Hughes, Pulis

Sunderland: Allardyce, Moyes

West Brom: Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

West Ham: Allardyce, Moyes, Pardew

Harsh to list some of them as “failing managers” imo.

[Graw]

Telegraph - 24 jobs at 10 Premier League clubs have gone to the same 6 failing managers

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Blackburn: Allardyce, Hughes

Crystal Palace: Allardyce, Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

Everton: Allardyce, Moyes

Fulham: Hodgson, Hughes
Newcastle United: Allardyce, Pardew

Southampton: Hughes, Pardew

Stoke: Hughes, Pulis

Sunderland: Allardyce, Moyes

West Brom: Hodgson, Pardew, Pulis

West Ham: Allardyce, Moyes, Pardew

Harsh to list some of them as “failing managers” imo.

Agreed - Pardew isn't failing... he's doing much worse than that

[bodacious benny]

Harsh to list some of them as “failing managers” imo.

Agreed - Pardew isn't failing... he's doing much worse than that

[Remember Colo]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when these mediocre managers go in and convince these owners/directors to hire them, suggesting they will do better than someone younger or with fresh ideas. People will say it's being risk-adverse, but for all their experience, what have they done to prove they're a less risky option.

[ColbacksFlamingBarnet]

The thing is that these guys represent one of the worst bits of the prem for me - the mid and lower tables just giving up, going to a manager who they know will at 9 times out of 10 keep them up, then sack them and bring in a clone when it goes t*** up.

[Paco]

Almost half of those appointments are actually relatively successful.

Allardyce successful (to a degree) at Blackburn, Palace, West Ham and Sunderland.

Pardew successfully for us, West Ham and Palace.

Hughes successful for Blackburn and Stoke.

Hodgson a success at Fulham and West Brom.

Pulis a success at Stoke and Palace (possibly West Brom too).

Moyes a success at Everton.

Sure by the end they've usually annoyed the fans but they generally have done well for at least a season at each club.

[Remember Colo]

Almost half of those appointments are actually relatively successful.

Allardyce successful (to a degree) at Blackburn, Palace, West Ham and Sunderland.

Pardew successfully for us, West Ham and Palace.

Hughes successful for Blackburn and Stoke.

Hodgson a success at Fulham and West Brom.

Pulis a success at Stoke and Palace (possibly West Brom too).

Moyes a success at Everton.

Sure by the end they've usually annoyed the fans but they generally have done well for at least a season at each club.

I didn't mean to suggest none of them had successful terms, but the general approach from owners seems to suggest these old names are more likely to achieve that mediocre level of survival than someone with less PL experience. But I don't know if they actually have a higher floor than other options, we just never get to find out. These guys also benefit from being in a large group of mediocre managers, of which only 3 can get relegated a season.

[Paco]

I didn't mean to suggest none of them had successful terms, but the general approach from owners seems to suggest these old names are more likely to achieve that mediocre level of survival than someone with less PL experience. But I don't know if they actually have a higher floor than other options, we just never get to find out. These guys also benefit from being in a large group of mediocre managers, of which only 3 can get relegated a season.

Yeah I suppose that is fair - they aren't inspiring appointments and f*** knows I wouldn't be overjoyed with any of them. And I suppose Carlos Cavarhal is showing that more of a gamble can work

[beatski]

Saints stay up and Stoke go down, imagine the Stoke fans

He's largely done not too bad in his managerial career up until the last 18 months at Stoke.

Imagine Robbie Savage though

[bodacious benny]

Saints stay up and Stoke go down, imagine the Stoke fans

He's largely done not too bad in his managerial career up until the last 18 months at Stoke.

Imagine Robbie Savage though

I quite like savage but he is insufferable about Hughes, not as bad as Jason Mohammed is about Pulis tho.