New Year’s Honours

[bodacious benny]

Kane and Southgate both receive Honours from the Queen, what an absolute pisstake

Neither deserve anything. I’ve nothing against awards for a lifetime of service or achievement (more so for normal people who have committed their lives to good causes rather than sports stars paid millions to do something) but does finishing 4th at a WC or winning a golden boot really deserve an honour?

Will it be Sir Gareth Southgate if England win the Nations League

[Don Sholeone]

Yeah its a complete joke now, anyone famous just seems to get one dished out just for being famous.

[krully]

I mean, maybe at the longest stretch Harry Kane could , but southgath? nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[TBC]

[Colly]

I don't see the issue at all with Southgate, 50 odd caps as a player, years in the England setup, and takes an unfancied team to our best World Cup finish since Sir Bobby Robson. He's done a lot of charity work and generally comes across as a really good guy in terms of how he carries himself. Feels OBE worthy to me.

[bodacious benny]

For me this type of thing should be for people who have done something truly exceptional and gone way above and beyond, none of what you say about Southgate fits into that criteria.

The whole system is bollocks really, I’m not against the Royal Family or anything, far from it. But these honours are dished out for largely meaningless things too often.

[Colly]

Have you ever nominated someone for one? Honours going to ordinary people for doing great things is a wonderful idea in principle, but relies entirely on people around them recognising it and actually nominating, which doesn't happen often enough. In the meantime people in the public eye are going to receive them, and Southgate is far more deserving than most.

[bodacious benny]

Have you ever nominated someone for one? Honours going to ordinary people for doing great things is a wonderful idea in principle, but relies entirely on people around them recognising it and actually nominating, which doesn't happen often enough. In the meantime people in the public eye are going to receive them, and Southgate is far more deserving than most.

No, but something like 70% of these honours go to normal people. I’m still not entirely sure why playing 50 times for your country and managing them to 4th place merits such a thing but each to their own. Southgate seems like a decent bloke and he’s done a a reasonable job but nothing that stands out. England’s perceived ‘success’ at the last WC is like us saying getting to an FA Cup QF is a success as we’ve been bollocks for so long when in reality it’s achieving nothing.

[Colly]

I'd give a knighthood to anyone who got us past the FA Cup 5th Round...