NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2019)

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Post by Sir Bobby » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:39 pm

Is it just me that thinks it’s a waste of a position having 3 goalkeepers? I mean how often does the third choice get played? I think I’d rather have an extra option outfield and let the under-21 keeper sit on the bench for a few games if it came to it.

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Post by Colly » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:48 pm

You say that, but we've got four right backs...

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Post by Remember Colo » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:53 pm

Do any of those young domestic players not count against the total? Or are those players already kept off your list?

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Post by Remember Colo » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:54 pm

Colly wrote:
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You say that, but we've got four right backs...
They each only count as .5 <roll>

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2019)

Post by lassassinblanc » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:01 pm

Tsi wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:11 pm
Colly wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:07 pm
How big is our squad at the moment? I think we actually need a small clear out, but if Aarons could stay fit I'd definitely keep him over Atsu. I mean I'd play myself over Atsu so it's not a huge compliment but still...
30 players

Martin Dubravka
Karl Darlow
(HG)
Rob Elliot

Javier Manquillo -would be good for versatility if needed
Deandre Yedlin
Jamie Sterry
Emil Krafth

Matt Ritchie (HG)
Paul Dummett (HG)
Jetro Willems

Achraf Lazaar

Jamaal Lascelles (HG)
Florian Lejeune
Fabian Schar
Federico Fernandez
Ciaran Clark (HG)


Sean Longstaff
Isaac Hayden (HG)
Ki Sung-yeung
Jonjo Shelvey (HG)

Henri Saivet
Jack Colback

Allan Saint-Maximin (ASM)
Jacob Murphy
Miguel Almiron
Christian Atsu

Rolando Aarons

Joelinton
Dwight Gayle (HG)
Yoshinori Muto
I'd register the players I've bolded for sure

Longstaff wouldn't need to be registered as he is only 21.

That would mean a squad of 22. with 8 home grown

Meaning either we loan out or sell the others before 1 Sept or register at least 3 of them.

I for one would like to Saivet perhaps given a chance
I'll Hazard a guess

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2019)

Post by jpg » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:24 pm

Tsi wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:11 pm
Colly wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:07 pm
How big is our squad at the moment? I think we actually need a small clear out, but if Aarons could stay fit I'd definitely keep him over Atsu. I mean I'd play myself over Atsu so it's not a huge compliment but still...
30 players

Martin Dubravka
Karl Darlow
Rob Elliot

Javier Manquillo
Deandre Yedlin
Jamie Sterry
Emil Krafth

Matt Ritchie
Paul Dummett
Jetro Willems
Achraf Lazaar

Jamaal Lascelles
Florian Lejeune
Fabian Schar
Federico Fernandez
Ciaran Clark

Sean Longstaff
Isaac Hayden
Ki Sung-yeung
Jonjo Shelvey
Henri Saivet
Jack Colback

Allan Saint-Maximin (ASM)
Jacob Murphy
Miguel Almiron
Christian Atsu
Rolando Aarons

Joelinton
Dwight Gayle
Yoshinori Muto
Thanks for clearing that one up <ok>

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Post by TJR » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:49 pm

Murphy and Aarons aren't needed as we don't play wingers in Bruce's preffered formation of 3-5-2.

Going off preseason / who our better players are, that would leave first choice / cover in every position as follows:

GK: Dubravka (Darlow & Elliot)
CB: Schar (Fernandez)
CB: Lascelles (Clark)
CB: Lejune (Dummett)
RWB: Krafth (Manquillo)
CM: SLongstaff (MLongstaff)
CM: Hayden (Ki)
CM: Shelvey (Saviet)
LWB: Willems (Ritchie)
FWD: Joelinton (Muto)
FWD: Almiron (Maximin)

Then loan out Murphy and Aarons. Get rid of Yedlin, Lazaar, Colback, Atsu and Gayle.

That leaves a 23 man squad with only 21 needing to be registered (both Longstaffs are young).

Room for 4 more players. I'd say we still need another proper out and out CF as Joelinton is the only one. Maybe get rid of Saviet and bring in a new CM as well. Then we still have room for 3 more!

Obviously none of that will actually happen before the deadline tomorrow (maybe Carroll on a free when he's back from injury in September / October). So we'll probably just end up keeping 4 of the 5 I'd want to get rid of.
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Post by beatski » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:51 pm

Aarons can play wing back

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Post by TJR » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:54 pm

Beatski wrote:
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Aarons can play wing back
True but it's unlikely he's going to get ahead of Willems and Ritchie so probably best to let him go on loan as he needs and will be wanting first team football at this stage in his career.

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Post by beatski » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:04 pm

TJR wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:54 pm
Beatski wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:51 pm
Aarons can play wing back
True but it's unlikely he's going to get ahead of Willems and Ritchie so probably best to let him go on loan as he needs and will be wanting first team football at this stage in his career.
Good point

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Post by Colly » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:55 pm

I'd keep Aarons just in case we ever use the Rafa three up top. Need a bit of flexibility still.

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Post by Sanchino » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:10 pm

Colly wrote:
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I'd keep Aarons just in case we ever use the Rafa three up top. Need a bit of flexibility still.
This. I don't think Aarons will go.. Bruce fancies him too and I'll even say he's going to start against Arsenal as a LWB with Ritchie injured and Willims just gelling in. A fit and firing Aarons (who's still only 23 mind) is a good pacey and skillful option to have of the bench / back-up as he can cover LWB/RWB/RW/LW/SS/CF. Rather keep him than Atsu and Murphy if anything.. more naturally talented and gifted than both I'll say.

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Post by Colly » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm

Honestly if Ritchie's out Sunday I'd be tempted to play Dummett there and bring Fernandez in. It's obviously pretty defensive, but against Arsenal I'd take it. We can front load the rest of the side to scare the s*** out of their woeful defense.

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Post by Sanchino » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 pm

Colly wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
Honestly if Ritchie's out Sunday I'd be tempted to play Dummett there and bring Fernandez in. It's obviously pretty defensive, but against Arsenal I'd take it. We can front load the rest of the side to scare the s*** out of their woeful defense.
That's negative and defensive. Dummet is not a LWB.. more suited as a CB or LB in a back four. I see aarons starting.. then jetro willems possibly coming on after the hour mark and we need pace in the wide areas to keep Lacazetee/Auba/Pepe at bay.

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Post by Toondes » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:06 pm

Here’s a vid to cheer you up lads. Defo worth a watch
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Post by Tsi » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:56 pm

Cracking vid some of the quality we've had play for us it's been a pleasure watching over the years <awe>

Special mention to poor old Roger Thames still the most unenthusiastic sounding commentator ever <laugh>

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Post by beatski » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:07 am

Sanchino wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 pm
Colly wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
Honestly if Ritchie's out Sunday I'd be tempted to play Dummett there and bring Fernandez in. It's obviously pretty defensive, but against Arsenal I'd take it. We can front load the rest of the side to scare the s*** out of their woeful defense.
That's negative and defensive. Dummet is not a LWB.. more suited as a CB or LB in a back four. I see aarons starting.. then jetro willems possibly coming on after the hour mark and we need pace in the wide areas to keep Lacazetee/Auba/Pepe at bay.
Yeah it's defensive, that would be the point. Youd be playing defensively to keep the arsenal attack at bay. Plus is Willems much quicker than Dummett? Enough for it to make a positive difference?

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Post by bodacious benny » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:31 am

I'm the scumbag outlaw. You're the pillar of justice. Neither of us like looking at ourselves in the mirror. Do we have a deal?

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Re: NUFC Minor/Untrusted Transfer Rumours (Summer 2019)

Post by Colly » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:57 am

Beatski wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:07 am
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 pm


That's negative and defensive. Dummet is not a LWB.. more suited as a CB or LB in a back four. I see aarons starting.. then jetro willems possibly coming on after the hour mark and we need pace in the wide areas to keep Lacazetee/Auba/Pepe at bay.
Yeah it's defensive, that would be the point. Youd be playing defensively to keep the arsenal attack at bay. Plus is Willems much quicker than Dummett? Enough for it to make a positive difference?
This. Couple that with the fact that if St Etienne is anything to go by Aarons can't defend which is a massive risk against a team like Arsenal.

Also this... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tts-top-f ... ast-season

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Post by lassassinblanc » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:14 am

Murphy on his way to Wednesday
I'll Hazard a guess

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