How much they paying youBodacious Benny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:50 pmNot exactly sure where TAA was supposed to put his hand for the second penalty appeal. Liverpool were the better team.
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I think the first one should have been a penalty to City, not the second one.krully wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:37 amHow much they paying youBodacious Benny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:50 pmNot exactly sure where TAA was supposed to put his hand for the second penalty appeal. Liverpool were the better team.
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The rules for a long time haven't made sense, VAR just highlights that. VAR has meant trying to apply the letter of the law, when for things like offside and hand balls is actually pretty nonsensical. Leagues are in a tough spot now that everyone can be watching repeated slow motion replays in 4K quality, while refs are making calls in real time from 25 yards away. But I do agree they need to do better to reconcile the rules and reality of replay.biggeordiedave wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 pmThe rules don't make sense anymore. VAR is f***ing ruining the game.Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:50 pmNot exactly sure where TAA was supposed to put his hand for the second penalty appeal. Liverpool were the better team.
I don't like how the PL is executing VAR, it's slowed down play way more than in other leagues I watch, for example in MLS, you wouldn't even know plays are being reviewed unless there's actually a changed call - wherein it becomes a stalled talking point every time in the PL this year.
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For a long time the Premier League have been protecting referees far too much. They've tried acting like they can't be wrong at all. This has lead to VAR being borderline useless.
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Yep. A combination of refs thinking "leave it to VAR" and the VAR refs not wanting to overrule the on field ref means that fewer and fewer things will be given. Well, at least we'll rule out plenty of perfectly good goals for pathetically marginal offsides. Job done.
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To be fair, for far too long refs have been wrongly blowing play dead for wrong offsides and preventing goals too. I've always thought it crazy with how few goals are scored in football, and how often that happens, it'd never been treated as a bigger deal. I do completely agree though that the rule needs to be loosened so as to require the attacking player actually be gaining an advantage, and not have players leaning an inch the wrong way be called for it.Colly wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:52 pmYep. A combination of refs thinking "leave it to VAR" and the VAR refs not wanting to overrule the on field ref means that fewer and fewer things will be given. Well, at least we'll rule out plenty of perfectly good goals for pathetically marginal offsides. Job done.
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I still think it should be more like tennis where each side gets a certain number of calls per game and it's up to them how/when/if they decide to use them. Numerous decisions are now taking up to 3 minutes to decide due to the level of micro-analysis going on which is ridiculous. During Everton v Spurs a few weeks ago they looked at the Alli handball appeal 26 times before deciding no penalty. If it's not clear enough to decide after watching it 3 or 4 times then it's not clear and obvious so move on and go with the referees decision.
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Completely agree with that. There's absolutely a point in which looking at it any more times isn't going to make the decision more clear.Bodacious Benny wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:17 pmI still think it should be more like tennis where each side gets a certain number of calls per game and it's up to them how/when/if they decide to use them. Numerous decisions are now taking up to 3 minutes to decide due to the level of micro-analysis going on which is ridiculous. During Everton v Spurs a few weeks ago they looked at the Alli handball appeal 26 times before deciding no penalty. If it's not clear enough to decide after watching it 3 or 4 times then it's not clear and obvious so move on and go with the referees decision.
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That's fine but it was a blatant penalty as wellBodacious Benny wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:17 pmI still think it should be more like tennis where each side gets a certain number of calls per game and it's up to them how/when/if they decide to use them. Numerous decisions are now taking up to 3 minutes to decide due to the level of micro-analysis going on which is ridiculous. During Everton v Spurs a few weeks ago they looked at the Alli handball appeal 26 times before deciding no penalty. If it's not clear enough to decide after watching it 3 or 4 times then it's not clear and obvious so move on and go with the referees decision.
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Oh yeah it was 100% a pen
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